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Re: Preventing head injuries Matt Newman4-Jun-02 10:37 Matt Newman 4-Jun-02 10:37  I suppose it reduces the weird typos too - Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist -Sonork ID: 100.11179 Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess Re: Preventing head injuries Gary Wheeler4-Jun-02 9:21 Gary Wheeler 4-Jun-02 9:21  Hmmm. I'll have to try that. I keep getting rug burn from banging my head on the cubicle walls... "Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle Re: Preventing head injuries 8-Jun-02 7:56 8-Jun-02 7:56  if you only bang your head on the keyboard half as often, then you are twice as likley to get injured. since you are madder when you hit your head from something not working twice, then you hit your head twice as hard. The best option is to get a one-hand keyboard, configure it for programming, and get one of the squeze things for your other hand. It really works! RSI is a hype.. AlexMarbus4-Jun-02 0:26 AlexMarbus 4-Jun-02 0:26  I really feel sorry for all the persons who suffer from RSI. I don't think it's a real disease, it's something between your ears.. -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net But then again, I could be wrong. Re: RSI is a hype.. David Wulff4-Jun-02 2:04 David Wulff 4-Jun-02 2:04  I don't believe it is hype for one moment, as I have experienced it, and my father suffers from as it as a result of his work, but I do believe it is not universal. In my youth (sic) I stayed up for almost 36 hours playing a damned computer game, and at the end it hurt tremedously to operate my right hand. It died away with time (the pain, not my hand obviously!), and I haven't had the urge to repeat the experience yet. My father suffers from RSI in his legs, hands and neck. It is as bad as (I'm not even going to attempt to spell this) arthritis in many respects. I expect you have suffered from RSI in the past, though you may not have realised it. For instance, have you ever done a repetative strenuous activity after a long time of abstinance (i.e. riding a bike, carrying lots of heavy objects, walking a large distance)? If so, you will no doubt feel your muscles aching unusally more than "normal" when you've stopped - that is essentially RSI. The difference is that regulary doing the activty will not improve it. However, it is I suppose between you ears, as that is surely where the pain is interpretted. Brain transplants with mentally damaged people should therefore be ale to cure RSI. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. Re: RSI is a hype.. AlexMarbus4-Jun-02 5:54 AlexMarbus 4-Jun-02 5:54  I still believe it's a hype at this moment. For centuries people have been doing the same work, everyday, over and over again, and nobody complained. However, since somebody invented he had a little pain in the arm (either from jacking off or from moving the mouse a little), the entire world seem to suffer from it? I really don't think so.. Note: above is my opinion. I don't mean to offence anybody but I do feel the need to tell this, since I've had some colleagues who complained every freakin' day about RSI, without even knowing how to spell it -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net But then again, I could be wrong. Re: RSI is a hype.. Christian Graus4-Jun-02 12:50 Christian Graus 4-Jun-02 12:50  AlexMarbus wrote: For centuries people have been doing the same work, everyday, over and over again, and nobody complained. For centuries, mankind has done work which does not involve sitting in the same position, peering at a screen and making the same, single, small, repetitive movement over and over, sometimes at 120 x the average length of a word times a minute. It's actually in your back, although the pain is in your arms, and it relates to sitting in the same position, and the effect this has on your spine. AlexMarbus wrote: but I do feel the need to tell this, since I've had some colleagues who complained every freakin' day about RSI, without even knowing how to spell it Let me reiterate - you really are quite ignorant. you have as much right to say something doesn't exist because you've not experienced it as I have to say that period pain is a crock. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Re: RSI is a hype.. Christian Graus4-Jun-02 2:09 Christian Graus 4-Jun-02 2:09  You are an ignorant clown. Screw you and the horse you rode in on. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Re: RSI is a hype.. Jörgen Sigvardsson4-Jun-02 3:06 Jörgen Sigvardsson 4-Jun-02 3:06  Christian Graus wrote: You are an ignorant clown. Screw you and the horse you rode in on. Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen FreeBSD is sexy. Re: RSI is a hype.. AlexMarbus4-Jun-02 5:50 AlexMarbus 4-Jun-02 5:50  Wow.. don't get mad at me? I was telling my opinion. Didn't you see the sentence started with " I don't think .."? I may have gone a little too far. What I was trying to say was, that in my opinion, only 10% of the people who say they suffer RSI really do. The rest of them are just a bunch of 'clowns who should screw themself and the horst they rode in on" (?) -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net But then again, I could be wrong. Re: RSI is a hype.. Christian Graus4-Jun-02 12:36 Christian Graus 4-Jun-02 12:36  AlexMarbus wrote: Wow.. don't get mad at me? I was telling my opinion. Didn't you see the sentence started with " I don't think .."? My neck and shoulders hurt ALL the time, and my arms hurt *most* of the time, and you want me to settle down when you say it's a farce ? AlexMarbus wrote: What I was trying to say was, that in my opinion, only 10% of the people who say they suffer RSI really do. The rest of them are just a bunch of 'clowns who should screw themself and the horst they rode in on" (?) I still disagree. How can you possibly say that ? How can you tell ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Re: RSI is a hype.. Nemanja Trifunovic4-Jun-02 13:48 Nemanja Trifunovic 4-Jun-02 13:48  I think, Christian, it is time you dropped some of your free-time projects. I don't know any other profession where people do for hobby the same thing they do at work. It is just too much. I vote pro drink Re: RSI is a hype.. Christian Graus4-Jun-02 14:16 Christian Graus 4-Jun-02 14:16  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I think, Christian, it is time you dropped some of your free-time projects. Done that, weeks ago. Many screensaver features did not make it because I pretty much stopped, and I've not taken anything else on, except a Dr Dobbs article, which I can dictate to the PC with Dragon Naturally Speaking. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Re: RSI is a hype.. 6-Jun-02 8:40 6-Jun-02 8:40  Christian Graus wrote: My neck and shoulders hurt ALL the time, and my arms hurt *most* of the time, and you want me to settle down when you say it's a farce ? Try a different career then Re: RSI is a hype.. Jason Henderson5-Jun-02 5:29 Jason Henderson 5-Jun-02 5:29  That's not very "Christian" like! Like it or not, I'm right. Re: RSI is a hype.. David Wulff7-Jun-02 13:00 David Wulff 7-Jun-02 13:00  On the countrary, that is very Christian Graus like, lol. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. Re: RSI is a hype.. KarstenK6-Jun-02 22:22 KarstenK 6-Jun-02 22:22  Somethings are hypes for example the internet and stock market, but there is also truth about it. For me is it essential to know there is a (weekly) time limit for sitting in front the PC and working with the keyboard and mouse. It is in my experience about 50-60 hours. Since I am working as pro it is also better for my overall health to do sports. And all my lifetime I didn´t like sports. But I have to do it na it works.;) Index finger gets hurt Maxwell Chen3-Jun-02 20:02 Maxwell Chen 3-Jun-02 20:02  Index finger gets hurt after rapidly clicking the mouse (while playing games or there are hundreds of push buttons on dialog template for you to add message handlers for button-clicked... Maxwell Chen Lets make bugs better! Re: Index finger gets hurt Tim Kosse4-Jun-02 5:51 Tim Kosse 4-Jun-02 5:51  Well, I think you need some more training: http://homokaasu.org/killeveryone/ I you can maintain over 500 kpm for at least 10 minutes without getting pain, only then you are skilled enough to add message handlers... Signature? Can't remember it... Aeron chairs, good or evil? Michael Dunn3-Jun-02 19:07 Michael Dunn 3-Jun-02 19:07  Before my current job (hi Steven!), I'd never used one. Having had one for a couple of months, I'm leaning towards evil. I've never had lower back or leg pains before, and now I do. The only thing that's changed from before is the chair I use. [edit]here's what an Aeron is[/edit] --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer Like the Google toolbar? Then check out UltraBar, with more features & customizable search engines! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.10414 AcidHelm Re: Aeron chairs, good or evil? Mauricio Ritter4-Jun-02 6:17 Mauricio Ritter 4-Jun-02 6:17  I sit with my legs crossed (like those people that do meditation). It´s good to work... and didn´t give me any leg problems so far... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. Re: Aeron chairs, good or evil? Paul M Watt5-Jun-02 21:03 Paul M Watt 5-Jun-02 21:03  Are those the black chairs made with the mesh type material for the seat and back? Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life! Re: Aeron chairs, good or evil? Michael Dunn5-Jun-02 21:19 Michael Dunn 5-Jun-02 21:19  That's the one. --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer Like the Google toolbar? Then check out UltraBar, with more features & customizable search engines! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.10414 AcidHelm Re: Aeron chairs, good or evil? Paul M Watt6-Jun-02 16:47 Paul M Watt 6-Jun-02 16:47  I really enjoyed them. I especially liked all of the levers and gadgets that they have. But I no longer work at that job so I not longer get that enjoyment. I noticed that my legs hurt every now and then in that chair, but my back felt really good in that chair. Also I would sit cross-legged sometimes and that seemed to solve my leg aches. One other thing is they come in 3 sizes (A,B,C), are you sure you have the size that best fits your body type? Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life! Re: Aeron chairs, good or evil? Len Holgate5-Jun-02 21:10 Len Holgate 5-Jun-02 21:10  Perhaps you have it set up wrong? Or perhaps it's the wrong size for you. They come in a number of different sizes and when I was trying them out I found the ones that didn't fit to be very uncomfortable. Then it took me a while to get it set up correctly, since then it's been great. Len Holgate www.jetbyte.com The right code, right now.

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