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Dalek Dave wrote: They ensure profits are made
Ahem. Speaking as a business owner; my accountants do absolutely nothing to generate profits. They ensure I comply with my fiduciary responsibilities, but they don't actually produce anything of commercial worth for my clients - the people who actually pay us. They are the people who generate our profits - not the accountants.
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Tax evasion isn't profit, it's a criminal offence.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's about bending the law. Not breaking it. 
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Accountant: n. the group of people who take the of joy mathematics and render it into tedium. And make a tidy profit in the process.
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OriginalGriff wrote: (or change your name to Nicholas Cage)
Why him?
Hello World!
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Because he has no discernable talent or acting ability but persistently gets cast in movies.
And then proceeds to turn a good sounding idea into a turkey.
One of the few actors who couldn't act his way into a wet paper bag, much less out of it.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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And if he wants to try his hand at Shakespeare he can put his natural talent to use and scrub toilets.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I agree to everything, but this part:
OriginalGriff wrote: <layer>English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Enter politics, then. Easy hours, lots of expenses, few questions asked.
Project management? It's not for me. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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SeptimusHedgehog 151576 wrote: few questions asked
...and when they are, you just don't answer them!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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That's the usual take on the subject. Our MPs, bless their cotton socks, were recently slammed for claiming heating on their second homes at our expense, a day or two after all the energy firms raised their tariffs by inflation-busting percentages. They have all gone very quiet. Dear little tikes.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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There was a bit on the BBC news this morning about the PlebGate tedium, saying that it has "eroded public confidence in politicians" - I didn't know there ever was any public confidence in politicians!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Confidence tricksters act on a form of confidence surely?
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contracting1995 wrote: Its all about money.
Then I would advise moving out of programming as programmers don't do what they do for the money.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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What they do it for then?
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They do it for the challenge, the success over almost insurmountable intellectual odds(generated by some users), and because it is more of a vocation than a job.
As Griff mentioned - the pay is not unimportant but it is not the reason for programming.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Its important for me since it supports my livings and pays the bills
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You won't get the big money thinking this way. If you enter an area, any area, just because of the money, you won't be good enough on that area to get the money.
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I'm Brazilian; English and other human languages in general aren't my best skills so I apologise for my less than perfect English...
"Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241
"'Sophisticated platform' typically means 'I have no idea how it works.'"</h>
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The sex.
Source: Sigmund Freud
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GuyThiebaut wrote: Then I would advise moving out of programming as programmers don't do what they do for the money.
Well, there are some that are crazy enough to do it..
Anyway, I love my profession, wish I could make more money out of it, still I stepped down (financially and nothing else) when changing jobs so I could work as a trainee and then become a programmer. I'm not making as much money as before, but I'm definitely happier.
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Is this a pro, or a con? 
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Well, the personality changes are normally reversible, but the partial lobotomy generally isn't.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Do you think Programmers are the weakest chain in the cycle?
Hello World!
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No.
This one[^] is.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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It's a good way to get rid of bad programmers.
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