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Richard MacCutchan26-Jul-24 23:19

26-Jul-24 23:19

No he's just the latest incarnation of a person who thinks we all work for him. Time to wield the stick yet again.

modified 27-Jul-24 5:45am.

pkfox27-Jul-24 7:15

pkfox

27-Jul-24 7:15

If you have a stick Richard use it Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

Richard MacCutchan27-Jul-24 9:26

27-Jul-24 9:26

Trouble is, it's a very small one. Sigh | :sigh:

Jeremy Falcon26-Jul-24 7:14

Jeremy Falcon

26-Jul-24 7:14

A duck's quack has a soft echo. This is loud echos of blah blah blah. Duck would probably type out a more coherent complaint too.

Jeremy Falcon

jeron126-Jul-24 9:38

jeron1

26-Jul-24 9:38

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Duck would probably type out a more coherent complaint too

Truth.

"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

PIEBALDconsult26-Jul-24 13:11

PIEBALDconsult

26-Jul-24 13:11

And then bill you for it.

kmoorevs26-Jul-24 9:25

kmoorevs

26-Jul-24 9:25

Wow! Just down the page there is someone upset that the program automatically took action on a 'potential mistake' and here you are upset that the program found a 'potential mistake' and didn't just fix it! Laugh | :laugh:

Personally, I'd like to be alerted if I mentioned but forgot the attachment, but I'd not like the program to add a recipient based on the mention of that contact. That's a really bad idea! Laugh | :laugh:

I'm not getting the duck/quack fowl language reference though...care to explain?

Since it's Friday, and you mentioned asylumns, I offer this. Have a great weekend! Smile | :)

Steven Wilson - The Same Asylum As Before - YouTube[^]

"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"

RedDk26-Jul-24 13:57

RedDk

26-Jul-24 13:57

(chirp chirp chirp)

Richard MacCutchan26-Jul-24 23:22

26-Jul-24 23:22

Fortunately (for you) the door is open and you are free to leave.

Jeremy Falcon27-Jul-24 6:09

Jeremy Falcon

27-Jul-24 6:09

jana_hus wrote:
So, you are safe.

It's the other way around. Newsflash, we don't work for you. All you did was piss off the experts. Good luck with that attitude.

Jeremy Falcon

Nelek27-Jul-24 13:48

Nelek

27-Jul-24 13:48

I have checked a bit around and see nothing out of boundaries in any of his 4 interactions with the site.
A Q/A, a comment to its answer, the comment below to the witch and this opening message...

Am I missing something?

If not... I hope that what he smoked can be used as tee or in a brownie too, because I want a bit too. Problem is that my lungs won't accept smoke anymore. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

Jeremy Falcon27-Jul-24 15:43

Jeremy Falcon

27-Jul-24 15:43

Beats me. I've only interacted with him here. His post suggested angst because he couldn't get a programming question across and then was pompous enough to suggest we're lucky that he won't bother us. In his mind, maybe he thought he was being funny... he's not. About time he learned to interact with grown ups.

Jeremy Falcon

Richard MacCutchan27-Jul-24 21:50

27-Jul-24 21:50

He has been here for years under different accounts and gets very tetchy if anyone dares to suggest that he formats his code in questions, or reads the manual. Was thrown off the site late last year for becoming abusive. And this is his second account since then. He also seems to think that we are all too stupid to recognise him from the first new message.

Taking a bite out of bad standards

pkfox27-Jul-24 7:16

pkfox

27-Jul-24 7:16

Just go away

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

honey the codewitch26-Jul-24 6:29

26-Jul-24 6:29

So there's a little thing called a "Grove port" which is simply a 4 wire connector of a particular form factor. Nothing complicated, just Grove implies a particular size and subset of functionality vs a general purpose connector, but is physically otherwise no different. Simple as could be.

So how can they screw this up?

I ordered some "Grove" connectors either from makerfabs or m5 - I can't remember which company. Well it was murder trying to fit the connector into the Grove port.

Finally I realized that the release clip was too large.

Lacking a pair of pliers near at hand, I bit the damned release clip off.

Fits like a charm now.

Seriously, how hard is it to screw up something so basic?

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jschell26-Jul-24 12:24

26-Jul-24 12:24

I could not find a specification either for the actual wiring and definitely not for the connector.

honey the codewitch26-Jul-24 12:27

Grove connectors - Engineering LibreTexts[^]

26-Jul-24 12:27

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jschell31-Jul-24 14:00

31-Jul-24 14:00

That is not close to a specification.

In contrast I looked for "usb-c specification" and found one right away.

honey the codewitch31-Jul-24 14:06

31-Jul-24 14:06

You asked for the wiring. That has the wiring.

As far as the size of the plug, that information is also available.

Even if you take exception to the way it is presented, your exception does not matter. The information is there.

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jschell4-Aug-24 6:26

4-Aug-24 6:26

honey the codewitch wrote:
You asked for the wiring. That has the wiring.

No I asked for a "specification". I used that word as I expect it to be used.

For example RFC 9113 is one of the vast number of RFCs that specify how HTTP works.

And if I google for "usb-c specification" I find something that looks like a specification also. Perhaps not as independent as one would prefer but at least quite a few people agree to it.

And to get even more general as an example there is the "American wire gauge" which has a specification as well. It specifies the size of wire.

B258 Standard Specification for Standard Nominal Diameters and Cross-Sectional Areas of AWG Sizes of Solid Round Wires Used as Electrical Conductors[^]

What you provided looks like something that a hobbyist wrote up. And definitely not something that came from a standards body.

Noting of course that you use the word "standards".

Now might be the case that there is in fact no actual standard. If so then the fact that you were able to buy parts that mismatch is no surprising.

But if there is an actual standard then where is it?

honey the codewitch4-Aug-24 6:53

4-Aug-24 6:53

It's a "de facto standard"

De facto standard - Wikipedia[^]

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jschell8-Aug-24 12:40

8-Aug-24 12:40

And thus mismatches are to be expected.

StarNamer@work26-Jul-24 13:48

StarNamer@work

26-Jul-24 13:48

Except the GROVE connector isn't a public standard. It's proprietary to Seed. So unless it's made or licensed by them it *has* to be subtly different even if it mostly fits.

https://arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/9030/what-type-of-connector-does-the-grove-system-use[^]

honey the codewitch26-Jul-24 14:46

26-Jul-24 14:46

It's not proprietary, but I should have said defacto standard.

Many kits from different vendors also have these ports.

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