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Edge refers to the Edge of the network where all the fun stuff happens. <- like that sentence.
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Ron Anders wrote: he Edge of the network where all the fun stuff happens
Ted Nelson, the guy who coined the 'hypertext' idea in his book Computer Lib / Dream machines, is taking both of networks where the information is in the nodes, with no information carried in the edges (the way we have become accustomed to, through WWW), but also networks where the nodes are mere branching points with no information in the nodes (possibly except for labeling of the alternative branches), and all the text or other information lies along the edge to the next node.
Nelson makes no discussion about the two alternatives; it may look as if he wasn't very much aware of it at all. If you approach Dream Machines with a conviction that the WWW ball-and-stick model is The One True Realization of Nelson's hypertext ideas, you can certainly find evidence in CL/DM.
If you rather approach it thinking that Nelson meant nodes to be selectors of the next text fragment, as an edge leading up to the next selection point, you will find so much evidence for it that you may think WWW is a gross misinterpretation of the hypertext idea. (At least the 1974 vintage. After 35 years with WWW, our minds have become drilled to think of nothing but the ball-and-stick model for hypertext concepts.)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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"Edge", like...sometimes you feel like MS is about to push you off a cliff...
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Quote: Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue?
I think Marketing said "People will think they have an EDGE with Edge"
More simplistic process of naming your product in 1951
Bush Hog[^]
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trønderen wrote: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue?
We are talking Microsoft right?
In 2015, when Edge was introduced, Microsoft would have had about 30,000 people working in Sales and Marketing.
I am guessing their brainstorming a new product name probably did not circle around complex higher mathematics.
While something like 'edgy' would seem like more of a starting point.
No idea what facts are behind the following but it suggests it is closer to what I suggested.
Sean Lyndersay's answer to Why is Microsoft Edge called Edge? - Quora[^]
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OK, I realize that a directed graph of text nodes with edges linking them is completely irrelevant to the name 'Edge'. The coincidence of graph edges and a the name of a tool for navigating these edges is fortuitous.
Then I am probably wrong about 'Lynx' being in any way inspired by 'links'.
Or Ford 'Ka' being inspired by 'car'.
Or the Amazon arrow running from A to z bearing any symbolic meaning.
Or that Californian Sun Maid raisins are made by the sun.
I am as well probably wrong about 'web' being inspired by a spider web.
The name of the WATFOR compiler is has no relationship to the phrase 'What for?'
BASIC is a pure abbreviation of 'Beginner's Allpurpose Symbolic Image Code'; the name is certainly not any hint to the simplicity of the language.
The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral.
Or for that sake, that these rectangular screen areas and the 'Windows' name of an OS is in any way related. The name similarity is a pure coincidence.
Or ... possibly ... Maybe marketing people love to leave some 'Easter eggs' in their marketing material, stuff that isn't immediately visible to everyone. And maybe they like to keep it that way, like a semi-hidden secret. So in their official responses, they do not tell openly where the Easter eggs are hidden. From the comments to my initial post, it looks as if not very many have found the Edge Easter egg.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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This discussion reminds me that it was years before I realized that Borland had likely intended their Quattro to be a Spanish-language-inspired follow-on to Lotus 1-2-3.
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> The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral.
That is correct, actually. "Coke" is an abbreviation of "Coca Cola", which derives from its original recipe that included cocaine and kola.
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#19th_century_historical_origins">Coca-Cola - Wikipedia</a>[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#19th_century_historical_origins" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>]
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca_wine">Coca wine - Wikipedia</a>[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca_wine" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>]
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I'm astounded that 'Sun Maid' was to make me think sun-made - it certainly didn't. Also, the Amazon arrow conjures up juvenile graffiti more than anything else.
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I always thought of it as in 'cutting edge,' or 'leading edge.'
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So, these days I have a few medical issues I'm working on... I try to login to my doctor's portal, and it's unable to handle Opera. Oh really? 40 years after all this got started, and you won't handle opera? Get it to come up in Edge - finally - and the f'ing icon is using my login information. I think not.
Off to vpn for me.
You're not paranoid if they really are listening and harvesting your data. I'm sure FISA will keep me safe.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: the f'ing icon is using my login information.
What do you mean?
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when I go to edge, the login photo for me is in the upper left.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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OK I give up, what is a login photo?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me. This appears to be the coordinated effort at MS trying to get me to login all the time. Not going to happen.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Sounds like the app might allow single sign-on (SSO).
I take it your log on to your computer login logs you on to your Microsoft account?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
modified 23-Apr-24 3:54am.
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No sir, all of local accounts on machines are local, I refuse to use the MS based login. But I do think it has to do with Office 365 and Edge "cooperating."
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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A number of times, I've seen a message that "Edge is using my webcam", though Edge is not running.
That's why my daughter's have pasted an opaque sticker on their laptop webcams. No spying.
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charlieg wrote: when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me.
Click on that image, Other Profiles, Browse as Guest.
Or pick another profile instead of Guest.
Or use InPrivate mode (Ctrl-Shift-N).
These profiles are only (primarily) used to determine what credentials the browser should offer to submit, should you be browsing the same sites as different users.
Chrome does the same thing.
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yeah, and I don't use chrome  . The biggest issue with MS and these online accounts are the merging of all the data. Apple is the premier leader in this space, and even they f'it up.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: and I don't use chrome
Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
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jschell wrote: Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.
Microsoft claims to have ripped out all the bits that send data back to Google. So there's that. I believe at least that much.
Of course that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (and then some), but on the other hand, the OS is more than capable of doing the same. If it's gotta go somewhere, I'd rather have this data go to one company than multiple - one of which being the biggest ad broker that has ever existed.
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dandy72 wrote: that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (
lol
They probably didn't work that hard - they just changed the url.
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truth - everyone is sharing engines these days.
However, Microsoft has started doing more of their historical antics. First, edge naturally assumes I want to share all of my history across all of my devices, etc. I really don't want to do that unless I really want too. Another example, for decades, default programs were driven by the control panel default programs area. MS in it's "wisdom" has now buried a default browser selection inside of Outlook.
They are just f'ing around. Like when they moved Documents from your local drive to under the OneDrive.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Yeah they're really trying hard to push people to their services they're eventually going to want to charge extra for. I wonder if it's gonna take another lawsuit to get them to stop that. It's getting annoying to an extreme. I think the current strategy is to annoy people until they just give in.
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