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rnbergren wrote: Take some small comfort in that we here, all are here, to just listen whenever you want to chat. I think I speak for everyone on that.
 If not all, many... with me as one of them too
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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A real bummer. We are all pulling for you. Hang in there.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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If you need a place where you’re missed, you know where to find it.
In the meantime, stay safe, stay strong, stay well!
Mircea
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OriginalGriff wrote: I've started drinking again, which I know is destructive but it helps me get to sleep.
I am not telling you "don't do it", but please, be careful with that.
OriginalGriff wrote: I'm probably going to have to talk to the doctor again maybe about antidepressants,
There are some that are taken at night because they knock you out.
I prefer the ones from the morning and melatonin based pills for the night though.
OriginalGriff wrote: counselling,
If not counselling at least company, and even better if the company is from someone you trust and you can talk about it with
OriginalGriff wrote: So ... how are you all?
A bit worried about you.
On the other hand, busy as hell with job and kids.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Dear Paul
Thank you for very much your feedback.
I'm at a loss for words, it's all so sad.
I hope you seek professional help. Talking to friends can also be very helpful. In my experience, talking about the situation over and over again is very helpful.
I'm so sorry and helpless to help you 
Bruno
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Not trying to equate... but we lost my mother last year, and my dad was pretty much in a similar situation. They had been together for over 60 years. What helped him in the initial couple of months was that at least one of us (his children) were staying with him. Even after that, he or we used to visit each other once a week.
I guess what I am trying to say is that company helps, especially company of those who have shared memories. If that is a possibility, please do try it.
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Paul, know that you are in our thoughts . My mother passed away in March, after I had been her caregiver for several months; she had dementia. I only know what I am going through, but it's enough for me to sympathize with your pain. For what it's worth my doctor helped, and I think I'm ready to talk with someone now. When you're ready, please seek help you feel comfortable with. We'll be here.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Paul, other than laughing at your puns and appreciating your crossword clue feedback, I can't claim to know you. Yet reading the above is really hard. I guess you may already have done this, but please get in contact with the bereavement support services; try Marie Curie[^] No commitment, you don't need to see anyone if you don't want to.
I'm sure you've a network of friends, neighbours and family supporting you, but sometimes those without the emotional attachment can see a little more clearly and give advice on a practical level on how to manage what you're going through.
Thoughts are very much with you.
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Hey there.
I am so sorry to read this - you have my sympathies.
Can't say we are close friends - but like many others on here, I look forward to reading your comments and puns etc.
Rest assured that however you're feeling right now - sad, numb, tired, angry etc — it's normal.
There's no right or wrong way to feel.
Hopefully you'll find some comfort in reading some of the other comments on here...
Take care.
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We've never met other than via CP yet I feel so sad over your loss and pain.
What a strange world - my first grandchild (James) was born just two weeks ago.
I hope he grows up to have as much class, and have as many people care about him, as you have.
Condolences, Craig![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Paul, I only just found this message, and there is nothing I can say to help ease your pain. However, from my experience as a Samaritan in previous years, I can say that they are always there to listen, so maybe worth a try.
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Hang in there dude.
veni bibi saltavi
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You don't know how out-of-shape you are until you spend an afternoon helping a neighbor doing pre-winter yard clean up. And I seem to be out of aspirin, tylenol, etc. Well, there's always the tequila, but, you know, work, so that's not an option for the moment. Sigh.
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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k5054 wrote: You don't know how out-of-shape you are until you spend an afternoon helping a neighbor doing pre-winter yard clean up.
Or playing rugby with two pre-teen grandchildren.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: two pre-teen grandchildren.
Well at least you can be thankful that they were not teenagers because then it would have been worse.
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Well ten years on I know not to go out in the garden with them.
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Count your blessings. I'm sitting in a car for the next seven hours.
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This is why I go out of my way to not ever talk to my neighbors. They may think I'm a jerk but they can't use me.
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Stretch first; slow startup. When one remembers. Reach up. Reach down. Behind etc.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Please consider swimming ... In cases of back pain or other unwanted side effects of too much exercise, I usually go for 1 hour of indoor swimming in a nice swimming pool not far from my place ... 
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Hot shower or hot bath can help a lot.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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k5054 wrote: You don't know how out-of-shape you are until you spend an afternoon helping a neighbor doing pre-winter yard clean up.
You'll know whether you're out of shape 3 minutes into it.
If you needed an entire afternoon to make that determination...then you came to the wrong conclusion.
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You really don't know you are out of shape when your 19 yo son and his friend start moving furniture and say, "we got this dad..." And then you see stuff zoom up and down the stairs.
I guess I was young once.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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