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I feel for you, I had to do this 4 years ago when my Brother in Law passed away unexpectedly.
I had to find a way into his Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and about 20 other assorted online service accounts.
And it WAS Painful.
Back then, the idea of having a digital will was still new, thankfully many services do now have a part in their settings, that allows you to nominate a person to hand the account over to on production of a death certificate.
I had to employ all sorts of sneaky tricks, from impersonating him over the phone (Luckily, I had a lot of his documentation to hand to answer things like security questions) to flat out threatening companies with court action, and with varying degrees of success.
The weak link in the chain however, was figuring out which email account he used as a backup for them all, in his case he had a secondary GMail address that no one knew about, once I discovered this, and was able to perform a password reset on the account, I was then able to use the access to that account, to perform a password reset on his main GMail account.
One I was into his main GMail account, I found that was his primary back up account/email for all his socials, and with the exception of Facebork everything from that point on was fairly plain sailing.
I don't have time to document the 2 years worth of fighting with Facebork that it took, and something which has recently cropped up again, but if you can get into his primary email account, you stand a much better chance of recovering an apple account that you do trying to deal with Apples Customer Services.
I wish you all the luck, your going to need it, you will get treat as though you are a criminal or a hacker, you will get cast off and past from dept to dept while they try to figure out a way to make you go away ...
All I can say is keep on at them, keep up the pressure, that's what I had to do, and am still doing with Facebork.
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really good answer
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Reading thru all the replies. kind of makes me sick to my stomach.
We don't know the OP's reasons. Looking at his ID I can see he has been around for more than a day. So I am going to assume good intentions.
What makes me sick. Is the fact that most people don't plan for this stage of life. It is going to happen to all of us. I watched my own brother die at 35. He didn't plan for it. I watched my second brother die at 35. (guess what) I watched my dad have his 4th heart attack in 4 years. He didn't plan for it. My mom died of cancer at 70. She did actually plan for it.
Plan for this people! Plan for your own death!
My wife and my eldest have the passcodes to everything except work. Work can elephant off if I go.
I have a written will(my wife and I together have things planned out)
We revisit this plan every once in awhile. Not often enough probably but who likes doing this. I don't at all.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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To me, it looks like of all causes of passing, cancer can be planned to a certain extent, because there is usually a time interval between diagnosis and passing. Heart issues and stroke are more immediate.
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Without more context, no. This is an estate matter. And this could have been a phone that the deceases used specifically to separate "none of your business". Perhaps the other party to the communications doesn't want their business aired in public either. Tunnel vision and a need to always be "sharing".
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Whether or not the phone can be unlocked, it is part of the estate. I'm assuming that the brother is the executor of the estate, otherwise he should turn the phone over to him/her.
It is the executor's responsibility to deal with this sort of stuff. For all you know, the phone might be the only place where a bitcoin wallet is stored, so allowing family to access it before the estate is distributed could get Apple, the executor, and the family in legal troubles.
This is just one of the reasons why online services make it so difficult to access accounts belonging to the dead.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: It is the executor's responsibility to deal with this sort of stuff. For all you know, the phone might be the only place where a bitcoin wallet is stored, so allowing family to access it before the estate is distributed could get Apple, the executor, and the family in legal troubles.
Ah, if there is something like this in the phone then the Executor is required to include it in the estate, so Apple could be sued for blocking access to part of the estate.
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Yes, so the Executor , not an arbitrary family member, should be the one to get access.
Perhaps I did not explain myself clearly enough.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Am I misunderstanding something? If the bitcoin wallet is only identified on the phone, and not in the cloud (in an Apple account), then AFAIK even Apple cannot help - one needs the PIN (passcode).
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For those who responded helpfully, my sincere thanks !
For those who assumed I eat human flesh, strangle kittens, and assist in the violation of the privacy of a deceased person, and used my post to rant-and-spew, I have no words, only disgust.
fyi: my respect for the deceased, and his grieving brother, is a compelling reason for omitting details of context that are tragic.
My specific mention of "resolve any question of ownership," in my OP, should have been enough to indicate issues of ownership/estate/inheritance were being addressed.
i have been active in efforts to raise awareness of, and support, advocacy for online privacy by organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for years.
ยซThe mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindledยป Plutarch
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming โWow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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LOL almost all are 4/6
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Short umpire was incorrect to have passed the matter to higher body (8)
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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I see what you did there, but ... are you sure that's how you spell it?
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Ah! I see what you meant now!
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
modified 12-Oct-22 4:20am.
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