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My first car was like that, a tiny Renault 5 with devastating 44 horses under the hood. 
Maybe it was just a donkey, but it got me everywhere without ever letting me down.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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My family had one too, it ended its glorious service in 2003. My first car was a 1998 Fiat Seicento, 39 HP, a worn out driver seat and an acceleration quite unbelievable for that car - at 110 it reached her limit though.
Now I have a 2003 Fiat Punto, originally 44HP but with GPL it goes down a notch. Overall a satisfying car but overtakes are mostly out of its reach and on motorways it's a tad underwhelming.
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My first car was a three year old Lancia Beta HPE 2000. 120 HP of Italian rust. 
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Lancia did make nice cars. I'd really like to get my hands on a Lancia Delta HF Integrale. I also love the Lancia Lybra, but I'm too clumsy to drive a car that big.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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They made cars that were wonderful to drive, but ... they corroded if you mentioned the word "rain", were built out of "whatever was handy" on the day1, and had some "interesting" design ideas2
Fun while they lasted though.
1: To get a spare part for my HPE you had to take the old one with you as I found when I needed a new distributor cap. What was there, went on. If it wasn't there, something else did.
2: The heated air vents were right in front of the gear lever, with the result that it glowed in the dark in cold weather; to remove one of the spark plugs you had to dismantle the cooling system.
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den2k88 wrote: I'd really like to get my hands on a Lancia Delta HF Integrale.
I just checked (looking to see if any HPEs survived, alas not) and there are two in the English Auto Trader ATM, starting at £23,000 ... both left hand drive. So it's possible you might find one ...
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In Italy they are a bit more common, especially at local motorist meetings.
Quote: 1: To get a spare part for my HPE you had to take the old one with you as I found when I needed a new distributor cap. What was there, went on. If it wasn't there, something else did.
Welcome to Italian manifacturing, have a nice stay. Some things never change. That didn't.
Quote: they corroded if you mentioned the word "rain",
It was common for Italian cars before the 1990s, there were special treatments done aftermarket - usually scrubbing to bare metal, covering with a waterproof base varnish and then painting over it. Older cars had the paint straight on the metal, with the results we know.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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A week ago we took the Autobahn too, via Bocholt and Aachen to Vaals, but that did not went as smoothly as we thought, we had some traffic jams sadly 
Quote: Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der autobahn
Vor uns liegt ein weites tal
Die sonne scheint mit glitzerstrahl
Die fahrbahn ist ein graues bandWeisse streifen, gruener rand
Jetzt schalten wir das radio an
Aus dem lautsprecher klingt es dann
Wir fahr'n auf der autobahn
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RickZeeland wrote: Aachen
Studied there. Not quite in Holland yet, but you can already smell the cheese.
RickZeeland wrote: we had some traffic jams sadly
No doubt they were caused by those who insist on driving with those wooden shoes (Clogs?)
On friday I will coming all the way up from the south and go home to Düren. You must have passed the exit on your way to Aachen.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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They have nice 'Teufelsenf' mustard in Aachen which goes well with the cheese, I bought some from a peddler in the city center. To my surprise he could speak Dutch, and it turned out he even had studied Dutch.
So I can only conclude that this historic city is certainly worth a visit 
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Did you at least visit the emperor?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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RickZeeland wrote: But we visited the Dom, does that count too ?
That counts. His bones are in the golden sarcophagus.
RickZeeland wrote: Katzencafé
That did not exist yet when I was there, but I probably would have visited it a few times.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Ahhh, I remember a similar ride like that on the Autobahn, perfect weather, no traffic worth mentioning.
From Karlsruhe to Mannheim on the A65 in about 15 min => +/- 200km/h, then via Kaiserslautern to Trier at a more sedate 160/170. Unlike Belgian traffic absolute and total Freude am Fahren 
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Friday I will have to drive around 750 km and I will certainly not go full blast all the way.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Faster than I ever dared in my '94 Miata, which was not known for speed. Perfectly straight state highway, crystal blue skies, no traffic. Ran it up to 108 mph (174 km/h) before the suspension started to feel a little shaky. Still, great fun.
Best fun I ever had in the car was playing chase-the-rabbit with a brand new, high-end Camaro through a twisty country road. By the end of it he was slaloming through both lanes trying to keep up with me, while I was hugging the right lane like it was my long-lost child .
Software Zen: delete this;
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I'm afraid I start to freak out at about 160 kph. Best speed drive I ever had was on the Spanish tollway during their recession, all the truck drivers were unwilling to pay the tolls.
The 3 speeding tickets I got later that year did dampen the fun but the little Audi 3 happily trundled down the freeway at 160.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Overdid a little drink and the date is going badly (10)
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I do not have one ready for tomorrow. Perhaps someone else will take it. 
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Compensate?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Well, it has 10 letters ... other than that, no.
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British English right?
cheers,
Super
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Now, why would you ask that? 
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On the hindsight , it was foolish to ask. Just trying to DRAMATISED the whole CCC thread.
cheers,
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You are up tomorrow - care to explain for the others?
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