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I feel your pain. CSS can be trickier than it might seem. For things like horizontal and vertical alignment you need to take into account what containers the styled elements are placed inside of. That will influence what style rule you can use or what style rule combinations you need to use in order to make the alignment work. The sucky part about it for me was that until I was given an explanation, I probably wouldn't have been able to figure out the dependencies by myself or by referencing many of the popular web standards tutorials out on the web.
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I'm so glad I am not alone. Html has 'evolved' for want of a better word, over a number of years. Bits have been tacked on until it has become a horror to use.
To my mind css is the icing on the cake. It puts all the formatting into a dark cupboard, or even a number of dark cupboards, that make it hard to follow.
I am currently struggling with bootstrap. Yes it works but how the hell do you remember what all the bits do? It's like trying to remember all the Java libraries, yech!!!
I wanna go back to desktop development...
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Thanks God I don't do web development for a living.
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OMG I am not alone.
HTML/CSS is a Hackers Dream. You keep hacking away at it until it works in your browser.
Then you repeat it for the various other browsers. Then you go on a shooting spree when the
first Mobile user hits the page, LOL.
I used to design every web page INSIDE of a <table>. I got lots of crap over it.
But guess what? I could get things to line up, and I could easily push back and say "Nope,
can't do that, how about this?"
But HTML Fixed (broke) all of that with DIVs that NEVER seem to align properly.
And then doing it with indirection... It reminds me of the Robin Williams Rant on Golf!
We write simple HTML.
Q: Using HTML
No. Using a completely different language, with no understanding of HTML. (Laughing starts)
Q: Oh to make it easier
No. To make you have to compile it, and then test it, and NEVER quite know what is wrong.
Q: But once you are done, you are good
NO. Because you have to test every browser... (Stronger Laughter)
Q: Then you are good
NO. Because you have to check mobile, and iPads
Q: Finally good?
NOPE. Because the browsers will get updated, and the standards will change and break things.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
modified 4-Aug-16 13:11pm.
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That's messed up (literally)  
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You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.
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True
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: IE6
HOW DARE YOU USE SUCH FOUL LANGUAGE IN MY PRESENCE. 
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Come on! You are doing it for less then a year!!! I do web for almost 20 years - try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: You are doing it for less then a year
Little longer than that. And I miss the good old WinForm days. WinForms, for UI development that just works 
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy
Indeed!
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Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I laughed out loud for real with that.
Jeremy Falcon
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IE8, the new IE6.
Jeremy Falcon
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And Edge is the new IE
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YOU can help phasing out IE8! If everyone stops supporting it, web users will be more inclined not to use a browser which makes all web sites look broken.
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I guess if I stop supporting IE8 my employer will stop supporting my bank account... 
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Well, so IE8 does you good afterall, in increases the amount of work you get paid for.
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