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No you don't. You vote for MEPs who have next to no power but very large expenses accounts and exist merely to give faux legitimacy to EU laws and regulations. The real business of the EU is conducted almost entirely by Commissions run by civil servants headed by unelected Commissioners with heads of State occasionally getting a look in when treaties need to be signed or amended.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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There is no such thing as an elected Prime Minister in the UK. Never has been. If electors think they are voting for a prime minister then they're even bigger idiots than all the political parties take them for! In any case it won't be the Prime Minister negotiating but an army of department secretaries, ministers and senior civil servants for the most part.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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It is the epical failurefor all british and european politicians that it came to that. After the clutter with Ukraine, Syria and the refugees no one with some brain is trusting these tricksters.
They get what they deserve, after making politics for some intellectual and business "elite" 
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Greetings from Germany
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So we are out - which is something I wasn't expecting (nor voted for).
I don't know what it's like where you are, but in the office here, there's mainly shock and disbelief.
However, and this is why I love being British, there's also a good deal of banter with all of our 'European' friends here in the office (which there are quite a number).
Suggestions have already been made to place any non-Brits on one side of the office only accessible by passport control - good ol' British sense of humour making the most out of a bad situation!
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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I voted 'out', but admit I was surprised that we won it.
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Yes, I think even Boris and Nigel are surprised!
I don't know what your thoughts are, but I thought it was a bloody terrible campaign from both sides.
Far too much bad blood, mud slinging, arguing and fear tactics.
Can't we have a sensible discussion?
If I went around talking to people in the office like that I would be sacked!!
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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It was indeed.
Nothing positive from the remain side at all, just threats and scare tactics.
The degree of BBC bias left a nasty taste as well: if someone pro-remain said anything it was headlined: "PM says...", "Chancellor says...", "Obama says...". The pro-leave comments got third or fourth billing.
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Ohh the BBC - that hasn't been neutral for as long as I can remember!
I've even gone so far as to stop watching BBC News or using the BBC Website as it's becoming so partisan on subjects it's quite embarrassing!
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote: Can't we have a sensible discussion?
In politics?
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I was surprised that we won it.
I am so, so glad you won it. Many of us here in the States are very happy for Britain right now. 
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It the talking point everywhere as the stock markets have taken a hit and the GB pound has taken a hit as well.
General thought in the rest of the world is U K will now go into recession and hence the market crashes.
Thanks UK. It cost me money 
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RossMW wrote: It cost me money
Stop your crying. 
It is only temporary. There will be a rough period, but it WILL get better for Britain.
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Things will rebound here pretty quick once it's no longer news.
For us (Kiwis) it will not make much difference and be back to normal soon.
The British will be like us. Nigel-no-mates 
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I work with an Italian the conversation this morning went
him "Morning"
me "Are you still f***ing here?"
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"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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God bless America, and God bless Britain.
In the end this is the best for both countries. Sovereignty, is everything.
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Weren't they sovereign before?
Kitty at my foot and I waAAAant to touch it...
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No, the EU countries are not considered sovereign by the EU. The states in the US are supposed to be sovereign, too, but they're not really.
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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A fascinating experiment in which I have only a minor interest.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Well a lot of people didn't see that i guess. We will see how it ends, i personally hope the british ship doesn't sink and the scare tactics are only tactics.
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We're not out.
The process of getting out won't start at least until October, the focus until then will be on electing a new PM.
After that there could be a general election called.
So nothing until this time next year.
Then investigation and negotiation.
Then it could be put to the people that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate and staying would be better. Possibly with another referendum.
Boris doesn't actually want to get out, he just wants to be PM.
If we do leave the process won't start for at least two years, and then take another two years to conclude.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: that a threat to leave has helped us negotiate
And for that very reason we should vote Leave again.
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Yes indeed - at least 2 years - that I knew (just couldn't be bothered to write it all down!)
There is a lot of work to be done in the meantime.
Maybe Europe will start to listen a bit more, maybe they'll begin appeasing other countries to halt the break up of the EU?
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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The process of leaving will start soon. Otherwise negotiations would not be started. Cameron must send a letter to EU soon with the fact that England leaves. It might/will take up 2 years before UK is definately out. We welcome Scotland and Northern Ireland in the EU within these 2 years 
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