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Also, don't forget to disable "telemetrics and data collection" and to check periodically to make sure the updates haven't re-enabled them.
QRZ? de WAØTTN
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..tells the bubble-popup to the lower right of my screen.
Again? Wasn't there an Update already only 3 weeks ago or so?
And why is it installed on my system, anyway?
I can't remember.
I dismiss the bubble. I go to Programs and Features and uninstall Java 8 Update 71.
3 billion minus 1.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Windows updated at the weekend, hang on didn't it update like last week...
Skype updated at the weekend, hang on didn't it update like last week...
It's not just Java this is the new normal and in many ways it is better. Small incremental changes released on a regular basis.
Small but often; as I said to the wife.
veni bibi saltavi
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That kind of depends whether the update is intrusive or not. If it requires shutting down the application and logging in again, or worse a system shutdown, I'm not so sure I like small, but often.
most annoying updates:
Pdf Creator, right when you actually want to use it, it asks you to update.
Skype -> login, update, login again
iTunes, but everything is wrong with iTunes
Java update, because you need to manually remove the other versions (else you end up with a lot of java versions/updates)
And in my opinion the updates for Windows 10. It is not intrusive as a process, but it has unwanted side effects 
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V. wrote: Pdf Creator, right when you actually want to use it, it asks you to update.
I switched updates frequency to Never in the options menu and since then no popups asking to update it...
In all the other cases (I don't know about iTunes as I don't use it) I think you are doomed... 
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No update will make it run any faster. 
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Unless you are doing Android Apps or are supporting legacy programs that require it there is no need to install it.
Even though you uninstall it, it is still an attack vector because they leave just enough behind to alow some things work. It's a pain to clean by hand. Registry keys and a file in system 32.
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ledtech3 wrote: Even though you uninstall it, it is still an attack vector because they leave just enough behind to alow some things work.
Thank you for the info!
I ran a tool (JavaRa) that removed the registry keys but apparently (wasn't mentioned in its log file) it didn't remove that system32 file. Can you tell me which one it is?
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I can't remember off hand but if you scroll thru it should be noticeable.
I think it showed the Java icon.
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Alright, thanks!
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Your welcome.
It may be named of all things, Java.exe.(google)
When installed I think it is in the system 32 folder and another in the syswo64 folder.
(I forgot about that one.)
I kept have internet popups so I finally traced the source to a BHO then to the Registry key then to the file in the folder.
And that was after uninstalling all versions.
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ledtech3 wrote: Even though you uninstall it, it is still an attack vector because they leave just enough behind to alow some things work
Well, at least I can say that the last machine of mine that had Java on it was decommissioned at least a decade ago.
Never had a reason to look back either.
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That was a Windows Xp carry over that didn't get questioned for some time.
Do we Really need this ?
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Can't see what the problem is - there have only been 5 updates[^] so far this year 
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If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Calibre, the e-book manager, was the worst. Haven't used it in a while so I don't know what it's like now but there used to be an update available every time you opened it!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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The only thing I use java for at home is to run a utility bot in an IRC channel. After swearing at the bot being a buggy PoS for a half dozen years I've finally started to do something about it. I found a .net irc library, pillaged one of it's sample projects, and after 2 evenings of screwing around have something approaching a minimal functioning replacement written. If I'm there yet comes down to if the baseline framework handles reconnects automatically - I didn't feel like elephanting with the connection on my main PC last night to test - need to plonk VS on my laptop for that. My next step after that's probably to throw it over the wall, and unlock the half-baked github resume achievement.
Post deployment, it'll be 3 billion minus 2. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Way to go! 
At this rate we'll cut it down to 2 billion in no time!
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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"I get this error"
What I have tried:
"I get this error"
The brand new 'carbon copy feature' of QA. 
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Have you tried turning it off, and back on again?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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"I've not yet tried what you're likely to suggest".
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I am not suggesting what you likely would have tried!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I'm missing
What I have not tried:
It should be preset with:
Googling for [insert subject like error message here] because then I have to read multiple links while the folks at CP will do that for me.
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<h2>Describe the problem</h2>
<textarea id="question" name="question" onkeyup="document.getElementById('tried').value = this.value;"></textarea>
<h2>What have you tried?</h2>
<textarea id="tried" name="tried"></textarea>
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The OP noticed that "What have I tried" is a trick question.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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