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HR should play no part in interviews.
If you are recruiting people with a certain amount of experience then you can more or less assume they can do the job from looking at their CV, and confirm it with a quick informal chat.
All that then matters is do you want them working with you, do they want to work with you. And of course your team.
I recently had an interview where I was given a 5 page technical exam and half an hour to do it. I spent half an hour on my phone then left when they came back to mark it.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I did a similar thing when, after an interview that started late, turned into two interviews, then they asked me to stay and do one of them 'psych' test things - while they all went home as it was after 5:30pm
I was told 'no test no job'
So grabbed the paper, marked all the answers at random (multiple choice) and left 3 minutes later.
The Psych results were the best they'd ever had- and I got the job.
should have been a warning, though - it was a sh*t job. Left 3 months later.
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Maxxx wrote: ritualistic disemboweling of a sheep on the boardroom table!
I would have thought that that would be classed as Normal for New Zealand.
veni bibi saltavi
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New bloody Zealand? We're not employing bloody Kiwis, mate!
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It's standard practice at GriffInc 
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I reckon the Griffter would be a good boss - just never, ever take in Lamb sandwiches - or fee him after midnight.
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bvgger ! I was going to send to my cv, too....
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Don't you mean "bigger"? 
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you've been peeking huh ?
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I believe it's called "Beijing" these days. And you missed the preposition. 
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So many fails in one post (and they're not yours!)
Interview is about exploring someones knowledge and whether they fit in the company / team - you can't script that.
How the hell do HR think you are going to get a good fit for the team if the interviewee is not allowed to talk to them?
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GStrad wrote: How the hell do HR think
I see your mistake
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We never used to do the "meet the team" and some of the people we hired were horrible.
One was a Morris dancing fan, who used to show pictures of his latest dances etc and wore sandals to work with white socks.
another used to get annoyed when we used to take the lord name in vain.
But since we started the this is the team and this is the project were working on we have had better success.
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Hey! There's nothing wrong with Morris Dancing *
*of course there is - just posting that in case my HR dept. read this and insist on employing at least one lesbian dwarf Morris Dancer in the name of equality
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I'll try anything once ... except incest and Morris Dancing.
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I did Morris Dancing at primary school.
The teacher was accordion player for the local troop and used to get her husband to come in and make us do it.
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Sounds like you enjoyed every stick smashing part of it 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
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HR: Where do you see yourself in three years?
Me: In your seat.
VP/Senior GM: Where do you see yourself in five years?
Me: <<same reply="">>
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You usually get down-voted by HR for answering that - it's a trite answer to a trite question.
I usually answer something like 'doing this job'. as most companies don't *really* want you to be ambitious - they want someone to do this role for as long as possible.
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Quote: Employer: So, Peter, where do you see yourself in five years?
Peter [thinking]: Don't say, "Doing your wife." Don't say, "Doing your wife." Don't say, "Doing your wife."
Peter: Doing your...[sees the employer's family picture] son?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I am with MM on this one, I would tell them to f*** off.
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Then you are both self-evidently independently wealthy.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Then you are both self-evidently independently wealthy.
No, just kinda working for myself and sub-contracting with a bunch of knobs when not having enough of my own work.
I don't interview well and can last a couple of years when I have too, before I tell some Mike Hunt what I think of them and or the company.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Fool! Know you not that if things were done correctly than HR would be out being interviewed, themselves?
As employees come and go they make work for HR to justify themselves at current (or even increased) staffing levels.
As for you? Get with the program!
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Meet the team?? Holy Elephant!
R&D is there for HR. But YOU seem to think it is the other way around!
On a more serious note: it may be possible that the test responsibility could be shared a bit with automatic regression testing and coders required to write and run proper unit/function tests before push/submit/checkin to master. Even so the 1/16 proportion is of course off!
Life is too shor
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