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So what 'best' is?
Fastest? Cleanest (bug-free)? Readable? Creative?
If you think you are the 'best' (or the 'worst') you do not understand what team work means...
For instance I'm a team leader of web development. Obviously I know a lot more about design/architecture/tools and so than the one does the actual page development, but it doesn't make me better - or him worst - than others...
In a team everyone have his own part and he supposed to do it according to his! best abilities...But even your part is larger than the others's it doesn't make you best...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You really are a team leader? you're a stuck-up, you're not the best nor the worst .... your choice does not appear in Poll. jejeje
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The Hamsters wrote: Best = the one who writes the most performant, best designed, least buggy code the quickest.
I was completely honest here: "I *am* the team" was an easy one!
But in most teams, everyone knows who is the The Best. Them, every time...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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For sure - you always get away with it easily...
OriginalGriff wrote: everyone knows who is the The Best. Them, every time That's what brings a team down...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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If it's not managed properly, yes.
I've known some seriously useless coders who thought they were The Best (heck I thought I was when I was young) - just look at some of the superstars we get asking questions in QA and publishing "Articles" here! Then look at the usernames, and it's clear they think they are perfect already...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Agreed!!!!
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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The one with no questions.
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There's only one other dev on the team, and he is the better developer of the two of us.
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Happens Half the time
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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about 25% think the are the top 10% rank. Quit amazing, that a quarter think so visionary.
Mathematic tells another story and also Psychology. "Self bias" is leading to overestimate the own power.
And than yelling about the managers....
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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KarstenK wrote: about 25% think the are the top 10% rank. Quit amazing, that a quarter think so
visionary.
One explanation could be that under-average developers don't even bother with CodeProject and other programming communities.
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My thoughts exactly
You'll find a lot of bad programmers on sites like CP and SO, but it's difficult to find good programmers that aren't on CP or SO!
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Sander Rossel wrote: You'll find a lot of bad programmers on sites like CP and SO, but it's difficult to find good programmers that aren't on CP or SO!
in other words... What was first? the chicken or the egg?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah! Those of you who think you know everything are very annoying to those of that do!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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To be fair, I voted I'm the best in my team mostly to skew the results.
TBH I don't even assume I'm the best in the room - even when I'm alone
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It really doesn't matter who's the best.
Who's measuring it anyway? How do you measure it in a meaningful way?
I've worked with good devs that were just awful team members. Some others where seen as not so good just because they misplaced in the team (not in their correct role).
It really depends and is too subjective.
Currently my main project includes different technologies so we have a lot of good people from different fields. So at the end, and by this question logic, we have a lot of best-in-the-team members
The most important and also difficult thing is actually to make all of them (more than 30) work as a real team. Some members try to stand out the crowd in a not so unified way and that causes problems.
The management still has to find a proper way to avoid finger-pointing and get-all-the-credit issues but most of the time is their fault anyway.
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I have voted "top 10% in my team" and I think that is the case.
However, I would also like to compete all so-called smart developers here, not just in my team but in entire company. It's a shame that my suggestion a few months back to conduct such coding competitions was shown the dustbin.
So my question is, do any of you have such competitions organized in your company?
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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Yes, but only for promotions. It can get pretty ugly too; meaning: cheating, yelling and screaming, and grievances. I'd prefer promotions be based on merit, quality of work, and being a team player, than just based on technical skills.
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You have the airing of grievances all year? What about the feats of strength?
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No we don't. I like the idea of contests outside of work, but not at work.
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jgakenhe wrote: I'd prefer promotions be based on merit, quality of work, and being a team player, than just based on technical skills.
In an ideal world... it would be like that. But... Have you ever heard the joke of the 1st day of the human body and the discussion of the organs to see who would be the boss?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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20% of time coding.
40% of time testing.
20% of time documentation.
20% of time other. (writing bugs, learning, meetings, sending messages on CP , etc.)
So if you're the best at coding, you're the best at doing 20% of the work and there is still another 80% to account for. Fair enough... If you're the best at coding, chances are you are probably going to spend more in the region of 40% of your time coding.
These percentages is in any case for the industry I'm working in, and I'm sure it varies depending on the industry you're working in.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
<< please vote!! >>
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Because I don't eat bacon and I have to admit I've never worked with a CListCtrl...
We were talking about writing actual code? In that case I'm the best (like Gaston)
*Flies away*
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Sander Rossel wrote: *Flies away* Sorry, your plane got stuck in my spaghetti code! And it's full of CListCtrls!
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