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Is that really how brits spell "aging"? 
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No - it's how we spell "ageing". I've never seen this "aging" word you're talking about. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Can we agree on "toboganning" then?
(A sledge is pulled by draft animals or dogs.)
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Looks like a perfect fit for old-ish-coder. 
Marc
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Looks like a perfect fit for old-ish-codger.
(As we are dealing with spelling  )
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Quote: As well as moving the DWP away from old tech, the CTO would need to introduce "next generation web, social, mobile, cloud, big data and deep learning technologies" to the mix.
This will not end well. On the other hand I can't mock as the Irish social welfare system fell over last year when the number of registered unemployed passed 65535 
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Some American cities have more than that...
According to my calculations, I should be able to retire about 5 years after I die.
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Just wanted to let everyone know I'm tired. I'm tired of IT. I'm tired of coding (since 1992). I'm tired of long nights trying to meet unrealistic deadlines. I'm tired of managers who motivate by complimenting you into accepting this as the norm. I'm tired of managers with type A personalities. I'm tired of managers with clean desks (I know they are hiding something). I'm tired of looking up coding solutions on Google (who remembers what we searched before Google? Nobody? That means I'm old. It was Deja News or DejaVue, btw).
On that topic, as I approach 50, I know two things: I'm not going to be the 50+ year old programmer, grey haired, sitting in the cube maze with the 20-somethings, fixing crappy code written 15-20 years ago. Nor do I want to be the IT manager, who spends long hours in meetings trying to forward this never-ending agenda of BS. This sounds like I'm angry and bitter, but I'm not. I'm actually thankful I didn't leave college become a musician like I told my Mom one night while hopped up on Vicodin during a bout of strep. But I'm also sad that I didn't. We are defined by the choices we make.
So I shall go forth for the next few years and suck up as long as necessary. I'll do my job well as I always have but there are other coders out there who know more than me and can not only take up the slack, but improve on it. I respect all of you, those that contribute to the knowledge bases and the "Internet of Things" and answer the stupid questions from the legions of noobs and moderate the forums and provide the "step-by-steps". Cheers to you and please remember that coding can consume you so much it runs your life. So step out occasionally without the phone, tablet or Oculus Rift and go somewhere interesting and meet real people. That's my plan at least. Maybe I'll turn it into a career.
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Sounds like a plan!
Good luck - from one Oldie (on the wrong side of 50) to a not-quite-so-oldie.
And remember, you may be older, but at least you learnt to think about what you were doing instead of just grabbing something from Google: the latest generation seems to do nothing else... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
modified 9-Jan-15 11:19am.
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OriginalGriff wrote: instead of just grabbing something from Google: the latest generation seems to do nothing else...
No, that's the previous generation. The current generation post the Google search query into QA and expect us to do the legwork for them.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I really wish I didn't stand corrected. But I do...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hmm, I think you guys are being a bit silly "things were better before" kind of way. I'm sure that people copied things from books before (I still do ), and before that we copied from our parents or other people. Just face it, a lot of human activity consist of copying things
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I'd agree - I will use code from articles and so forth - but I think about the code I'm using and will modify my code to work with it, or it to work with my code.
But there seems to be a trend (in QA at least) of "find some code that says it does the job" and expect it to work without any changes. Even if your app is written in C++ and the code you found is PHP...
I don't understand that, not at all: even if I buy a part for my car, I don't necessarily expect it to fit - I check, and compare old and new, and make sure before I try to "stuff it in there". Don't you?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I don't understand that, not at all: even if I buy a part for my car, I don't necessarily expect it to fit - I check, and compare old and new, and make sure before I try to "stuff it in there". Don't you?
That's always a good idea, especially if one doesn't completely understand what you put in, which we rarely do these days. But my experience is that people that know what they do, tend to check it even more, to make sure there aren't any stupid mistakes.
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OriginalGriff wrote: even if I buy a part for my car, I don't necessarily expect it to fit - I check, and compare old and new, and make sure before I try to "stuff it in there". Don't you?
Nope, I recently made a purchase like that. I came home and was like "these things come in different sizes?"
There's just stuff I'm not so good with. Now I went back to the store, I was the QA n00b that time.
With programming it's no different I guess, except when their code doesn't fit they come to QA.
What baffles me is that the people in QA are, apparently, students or even professionals. You'd expect a bit more from them. And they can't even form correct English sentences.
i mean who cant from a can not engrish sentense corectly. thats jus lame.
I sentence them to grammar school!
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Kenneth Haugland wrote: I'm sure that people copied things from books before
Copy from paper?
You cannot help but learn stuff if you are typing a 500-line listing from a book into your IDE. That quite different from a copy/paste from a website, hitting F5 and proclaiming "it don't work".
Some of these people do not know anything about coding - it's just blocks of text that get combined like lego's.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Well, that depends on the complexity I guess. But I would always recommend that you read the book, or the article, that follows the code.
BTW: I used to love playing around with lego 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: blocks of text that get combined like lego's.
Well, in QA it's more like two bits of Lego, a pile of Meccano, a house brick, and a couple of cricket balls...
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I can sympathize, being more than a dozen years your senior and still coding (since 1967 in high school). I have carefully managed to avoid management for all these decades, and my current environment isn't all that bad, but... I can't find motivation any more.
According to my calculations, I should be able to retire about 5 years after I die.
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I can only gather that is either:
1. An acronym I don't understand
or
2. A misspelling and you meant porn
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yes.
and I can only hope that you knew I was joking.
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I don't think I've met anyone who was serious on these threads. It's almost like reading AVClub
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It's not a misspelling - Google would've pointed you to this[^].
PS: I'm an older fart than you and still love writing code and building apps. There's nothing else in life I'd rather do. Just sayin'.
/ravi
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