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"Deployment is an utter farce. Source control is hideous. Web Services are appalling hacks. Web development is a massive step backwards dragging all manner of shonky technologies and libraries together."
Totally agree.
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Yay 
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I feel the same way.
If I have to work with the web to be viable I'd rather change careers entirely. That and I've seen too many really great technologies abandoned on a whim (Silverlight) - I cannot be expected to learn an entirely new set of tools/frameworks/IDEs every time someone at Microsoft/Apple/Oracle/etc. gets an upset stomach.
I won't miss this at all.
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I never used Silverlight but I have used WPF extensively (without, shock horror, MVVM) and loved it - hopefully it can be revived
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I have a 3 year plan as well, though it may take 4. After we pay off the student loans, we are going to live in the woods. We've been spending lots of energy learning to do it correctly, so we can enjoy life.
I'm tired of the whole rat race.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Do not give up, you are only in the wrong scope.
If you don't like web don't do web.
If you don't like mobile don't do mobile.
If you don't like cloud don't do cloud.
There is so much to be done up there, no need to follow the crowd.
You want to get love of programming back ? come join us to build stuff around Bitcoin.
I am serious, by learning about it you'll find again your love for programming coming back in no time.
modified 19-Sep-14 9:08am.
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I only agree with you in the fact that web development is a step backwards. To me it's like returning to the dumb terminal time but putting lights and hacks to that terminal so that the user has a "better experience".
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Dude, take it from a grizzled old timer, these problems run in cycles.
As much as I like the idea of less competition, I dislike the thought of anyone leaving programming even more.
Bad bosses, bad organizations, bad practices all get recognized as bad, given enough time.
A place where I suffered all of the above, eventually had me a happy man, I outlived all the problems.
True, the bad cycle started up again and I'm no longer there, but your career is never going to be linear. There will be ups and downs.
Hang in there, or hang somewhere else, but stay true to programming.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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RugbyLeague wrote:
There, I fixed it. 
Thank you though.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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BrainiacV wrote: Bad bosses, bad organizations, bad practices all get recognized as bad, given enough time.
Unfortunately, that time is often after the company/division has been shut down.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Programming positions don't actually involve that much programming anymore. It's a lot of politicking, and other trash. The code we actually write is quick, clean, and easy especially wiht the tools these days. So that means I spend very little time actually writing code, and the rest of the time being an office worker.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I agree -- it's an awful situation: however, there's a little tune you can whistle to make it all better. Here: sing along with me:
"Remember you're a whore
Remember you're a whore
When life becomes a bore
Remember you're a whore"
...and so on.
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As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant.
I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave.
I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal.
Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing.
Your thoughts on this?
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If there is a service charge levied on the bill, I won't tip unless the service charge is removed.
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I really dislike service charges. One of my favourite restaurants did that one day. The result - it completely lost its edge and the standard of service fell off a cliff.
I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Are you kidding. I work myself right the way up to a disapproving tut.
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Because people are being paid to do a job and the company should be paying the inviduals relative the standard they expect in the hotel/establishment. Some middle/high class hotels do not permit tipping.
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Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is.
It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...
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In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.
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So does that mean you have to carry a wad of cash around with you? Here most people have no cash on them, just a bit of plastic
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You can add the tip even when paying by plastic. Hey, we're quite go ahead up here in the northern hemisphere you know. 
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Plastic? How quaint.
You don't get NFC payments there yet? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others.
Hey have 15%!
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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As someone mentioned above, it's just a culture thing. But I agree tipping bartenders seems a bit OTT.
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