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Programming positions don't actually involve that much programming anymore. It's a lot of politicking, and other trash. The code we actually write is quick, clean, and easy especially wiht the tools these days. So that means I spend very little time actually writing code, and the rest of the time being an office worker.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I agree -- it's an awful situation: however, there's a little tune you can whistle to make it all better. Here: sing along with me:
"Remember you're a whore
Remember you're a whore
When life becomes a bore
Remember you're a whore"
...and so on.
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As in tipping the service staff, be it at a hotel or at a restaurant.
I am not a tight-wad with my money, so if you are busting your ass to make my stay at a hotel better, or my experience at a restaurant better, then you will get a nice tip. If the service was poor, then I will speak to the person or their manager about it, but I will still leave them a tip, just not as much as I normally would leave.
I never understood why people don't tip, just out of principal.
Side note: I recently learned that most establishments in Japan for instance, don't accept tips; its a cultural thing.
Your thoughts on this?
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If there is a service charge levied on the bill, I won't tip unless the service charge is removed.
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I really dislike service charges. One of my favourite restaurants did that one day. The result - it completely lost its edge and the standard of service fell off a cliff.
I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: I think the British is general need to be pretty annoyed to ask to have the service charge removed.
Are you kidding. I work myself right the way up to a disapproving tut.
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Because people are being paid to do a job and the company should be paying the inviduals relative the standard they expect in the hotel/establishment. Some middle/high class hotels do not permit tipping.
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Definitely a culture thing. There is generally no tipping here in New Zealand as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income. This means when Kiwis go overseas we are very lost as to the etiquette and what a good / normal tip for what service is.
It makes it rather awkward for us when we go to somewhere like US not knowing who or how much is the norm...
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In the US if you don't leave at least 15% they chase you down the road asking for their money.
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So does that mean you have to carry a wad of cash around with you? Here most people have no cash on them, just a bit of plastic
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You can add the tip even when paying by plastic. Hey, we're quite go ahead up here in the northern hemisphere you know. 
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Plastic? How quaint.
You don't get NFC payments there yet? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I found that very confusing. Table service is one thing, but if you go up to a bar and get a beer it seems you are still supposed to tip. I suppose some people are better at getting a bottle out the fridge than others.
Hey have 15%!
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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As someone mentioned above, it's just a culture thing. But I agree tipping bartenders seems a bit OTT.
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Oh I dunno - when I did bar tending, I used to appreciate them!
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That makes me think of Felinfoel and Brains!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Bar staff get a dollar per round.
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Agreed. Our party were held at cleaver point edge at a restaurant in the US by the whole kitchen staff, until the person paying the bill explained why the tip he gave wasn't the correct amount.
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RossMW wrote: as service personnel are paid adequately and not having to rely on tips for their income.
Here in the states, it is probably either greed or not getting paid adequately. However, when I tip, I don't consciously think about that. I tip purely on the level of service I received.
I would like visit New Zealand someday; it is on my life's bucket list.
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Everyone's welcome. Only problem with NZ is it a long way to go and conversely a long way for us to get anything (except Aussie, which most NZers are very familiar with)
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Conversely, many French waiting staff get nothing unless customers leave tips.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I was told some years ago (by my French colleague), that tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: tipping is no longer expected in France as service is included in the bill
...If not in the actions of the waiting staff... 
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Really?
The clever b*st*rds never informed me!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You're a European, they thought you knew.
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