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S u n s h i n e wrote: Rather creepy how you independently made the same suggestion too. Can you read minds over IP?
? I've gone back 5 pages and I can't find it.
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look for I am toad[^]
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Ahhh. Nope, I wouldn't have got that one from the title of the thread.
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That doesn't matter, I wouldn't even have mentioned it if not for the part about trolls
So do you think you could persuade Chris to add a few icons? 
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Now if only we could attach this to Internet Trolls as well.
Would love to, but they have no shame. 
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What are the main differences between a PC Monitor and a TV screen (ignoring any tuners)?
I need a new monitor but it seems you can get a decent TV for sub £200 these days. Most of them also seem to accept at least a VGA connector.
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A TV will have a larger RGB LCD matrix as it's designed to be viewed from further away.
Look up close to your monitor you will struggle to see the separate RGB elements, do the same with your TV and you should be able to see them clearly.
If you do go down the TV route use an HDMI lead as the picture quality will be better.
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TVs look like crap at computer viewing distance.
You can also get a decent PC monitor for sub £200 so you're not even saving anything.
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By default TVs clip 20 or 30 pixels from the edge of whatever they're showing and scale the rest up to fit. This a is a legacy from the CRT era. Since the edge of the image was typically hidden behind bezels broadcasters used that bit of the signal to transmit metadata instead (ex close captioning). It remains today in our digital world because just as Joe Sixpack will think louder speakers sound better, the TV that makes the characters in the movie the boxmart is looping on all its screens looks better. 
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Correct, I found out about that one a while ago.
You can usually improve the picture because most modern flat screen TV's have an option to switch this off.
By default they all do it but it can be disabled. If there is a manual it is somewhere in there but usually obscure.
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I've got a 40" Samsung telly, a 22" Samsung (pc) monitor and 26" Teac telly that I use for computer use.
I've found the colour to be different, though no more different than any other comparison between pc monitors I've had in the past. Since they're all 1920x1080, and the size is different, the pixel size is different - but that's just common-sense. So too is the fact you can sit further away from the larger screens and still be able to read them.
The benefits for me are of the Teac telly over the Samsung pc monitor are:
(a) The cost - last year the telly was $259, the pc monitor (4 years ago) was $250.
(b) it records telly whereas the tv tuner in the pc wouldn't cope with the interference the pc introduced.
(c) it contains speakers, which helps keep the desk clean
(d) Inputs: it has 3 hdmi, 2 A/V, USB, 2 YPBPR, 1 SVGA d-sub
(e) I leave Raspberry Pi, Desktop, PS3 connected all the time. I plug the laptop into the other HDMI input as required.
The disadvantages:
(a) viewing angle - viewing from below the screen gives a much poorer picture than CRT, my laptop and my Samsung pc monitor, though my Samsung telly has an excellent viewing angle left/right, above/below.
(b) The stand is fixed - I cant tilt the screen up, down, left or right.
(c) no auto-on feature - must use button on telly or remote control.
I think you'd find that most of these differences are attributable to the models of each - not to the question of TV vs PC monitor. The Teac was cheap and cheerful, but I'm continually surprised at how much I appreciate it instead of another same-size pc monitor.
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HI guys ,
need to discuss approach for starting a new project. our new project is something big application kind of enterprise application and may be multi database. just wanted to know which approach will be better for such application where we have lot of interconnected modules / reports / emails / invoices / (heavy data in future) / file management etc. classic asp.net or MVC. i am familiar with asp.net application and it will be easy for me at some level. MVC is good but i am not sure as have not worked on MVC. so which is the best practice for such projects.
please add pros and cons of both? and if this is not a proper forum to ask this question move it to relevant ?
Thanks
Ravi Khoda
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Stick With What You Know if you want to do it well - developing a large project as your first in a new technology is not the best idea.
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That's a trick question. They're web technologies, so neither is appropriate for applications.
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well this will be a web based application.
Ravi Khoda
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I'd suggest doing it in Silverlight but the f***ing thing has be DEPRECATED!
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The web isn't suitable for applications.
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ASP.NET is easier to spell, so I'd go with that.
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OG,
Then i go with .NET much more easier and then just a "." much simpler. 
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I'd suggest MVC and Razor - get as much separation between your logic and your interface as you can, because you never know when the interface paradigm will just be changed without warning.
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Currently i am working on the project as you have described.
We have developed that in MVC and Generic Repository.
And this application is almost done except the changes and additional features.
So as i have experienced that MVC is better for this kind of projects due to Maintenance and Constant changes and additional requirements.
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There's another item that's not on your list, which is known as 'ASP.Net Web Pages'[^]...it has all the goodness of Razor engine without all the complexity of MVC. Don't know if you could call it the successor to classic ASP.Net...maybe. It's not to be confused with 'Web Forms'.
Web Pages started life with Microsoft WebMatrix but you can also develop your Web Pages sites with Visual Studio.
It's meant to be a much simpler and approachable version of ASP.Net to compete with PHP...it is pretty much as easy to use...still need Windows hosting to deploy though.
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MVC is best...learn the basics first and learn on job.. Its better than classic ASP.Net.
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ravikhoda wrote: classic asp.net or MVC
I would say MVC but that is because I have worked with it for the past few years.
It is different than anything you have probably worked with, but it is worth learning. If you want to become a "separation of concerns" evangelist look into TDD (test driven development).
It is the way to go, but I have to admit that it is hard to get used to at first. It is a different way of thinking about programming and takes some getting used to.
If you can be disciplined enough to embrace this paradigm you will reap rewards when it comes to requirements changes or refinement.
Try to develop under an agile framework so that you are never trying to develop the grand design all at one go. Break things down to small deliverable chunks and the new architecture will not be so overwhelming.
In the end it is how comfortable you are with trying something new.
If your management isn't flexible enough to allow you time to learn a new (better IMHO) technology then go with what you know and be done with it.
Not as rewarding, but will keep you employed; which after all is the name of the game.
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