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GeneralRe: Should IT Managers code? Pin
Jörgen Andersson21-Jan-14 10:53
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Joe Woodbury22-Jan-14 4:13
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Define IT. IT in inside parlance, is typically not engineering, but handling the company infrastructure, in which case, the best I've worked with can code scripts and that's about it. They could, however, make VMWare and routers proverbially dance and sing.

I believe Engineering managers should have done some engineering, though simply respecting engineering may be good enough for a rare individual. The best manager I've ever had by magnitudes was a former hardware engineer. The second best I had couldn't write code if his life depended on it, but could close sales like no tomorrow and the customers loved him. The third best was a working software engineer who spent most of his time coding, but he was a rare creature. ALL respected engineering and the time it takes, could quickly grasp the core of issues and, most importantly, enabled us engineers to do our jobs and shielded us from the bullshit of upper management.

(Thinking more about this, I believe the qualities that make a good manager and a good developer are different. Great managers not only need to see the big picture, but need to know how to handle people. They need to know how to digest information given them and be able to distinguish priorities. Most importantly, they need to have a really good BS meter. I've worked with few engineers, and even fewer brilliant engineers, who show these qualities.

On the flip side, the one common trait amongst the terrible management I've had is that they didn't respect the engineering process. In general, they thought that simply demanding results was sufficient.)
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