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Grr, grr and thrice grr!
I had an interview a week back. It went well and I just got feedback, and the people were impressed and thought I would be great.
The frogging IIa's however have pulled the elphant budget. So no job.
Archer's security device [8]
speramus in juniperus
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There is one going in Pompey, if you undersell your alcohol consumption... 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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I don't follow your twitter feed but it sure seems like you are interviewing all the time. Perhaps you should just keep a job once you get it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: The frogging IIa's however have pulled the elphant budget
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Rage wrote: frogging
Assume KSS version of rude word.
Rage wrote: IIa's
Bean counters, or accountants. See this[^] thread.
Rage wrote: elphant
KSS version of rude word, started after MM was banned three times in the same day for using the unexpurgated version.
Basically, the accountants have killed the project budget so the position no longer exists as there is no funding available.
(Or, they thought he was useless but don't want to say that in case they might need him later)
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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OriginalGriff wrote: started after MM was banned three times in the same day for using the unexpurgated version.
Thanks, but hey, I am the one to explain that to others here, not the other way round. 
OriginalGriff wrote: they thought he was useless but don't want to say that because they are polite in case they might need him later
FTFY.
Thanks Griff !
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Rage wrote: OriginalGriff wrote: started after MM was banned three times in the same day for using the unexpurgated version.
Thanks, but hey, I am the one to explain that to others here, not the other way round. 
I reckon I need to replace Bob up in the top left hand corner.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Rage wrote: OriginalGriff wrote: started after MM was banned three times in the same day for using the unexpurgated version.
Thanks, but hey, I am the one to explain that to others here, not the other way round.
I reckon I need to replace Bob up in the top left hand corner.
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When is the code I write mine?
I work for a company that creates solutions for manufacturing. Recently, we had a 500 lb gorilla customer request a code walk-through. I'm fine with that... but then they asked for a copy of the code.
My boss was okay with giving them the code because we were paid dearly for the project. However, like most of the developers I know, I have a set of "helper" libraries that I have developed over the years. Many of them were started prior to this employer and I'll take copies of them with me when I go on to my next employer. They will continue to evolve over my career.
So, when we sold the code, I insisted that only the compiled .dlls of the helper files be given to them. They can have their soltion specific code but not my libraries. My boss was understanding and we moved forward. However, if he wasn't understanding and was a jerk-boss, do I have any legal standing over the ownership of this code?
Thanks for your help!
Joel Palmer
Data Integration Engineer
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Not really. Developed on the job for the job belongs to the job.
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Yes I second this. This is what every company tells me when I join them. In fact, we have some strict guidelines not to use other companies libs without their permission. The library could have been developed by you in your last company but still they wouldn't encourage you to use this for your current work inside the office premises, PC. Unless the License info says it's completely free for commercial distribution.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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That's actually a law in my country. At least for 50 years, then it becomes public domain. Fun fact, the law is 30 years old and granted protection from the date it was published, so no code has ever falen in public domain yet =p
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
"Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241
"'Sophisticated platform' typically means 'I have no idea how it works.'"
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Depends on your country, and on your contract.
I, for instance, have no property about what I develop for/in my current company, e.g. the company owns everything. I cannot take that code over to other company, as you did (well, you could say you have "rewritten it" in the new company, so this is highly hypocritical anyway).
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Joel Palmer wrote: do I have any legal standing over the ownership of this code?
If you did, would the legal dept allow you to use it?
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We have no legal dept. I signed no agreement.
Joel Palmer
Data Integration Engineer
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I think you lost the point. This code was mine before this company relationship started. The legal department vacuum I referred to is my company's. I have no legal agreement with them that says everyting I have ever done is now theirs.
Joel Palmer
Data Integration Engineer
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Joel Palmer wrote: This code was mine before this company relationship started.
In which case, you should consider simply providing the company with the compiled dll's as well, not the source code... Even if you give it to them for free rather than selling it, you can rest assured that your libraries will indeed remain yours.
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Good point. I'll keep that in mind.
Joel Palmer
Data Integration Engineer
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Joel Palmer wrote: do I have any legal standing over the ownership of this code?
The only people who could answer that would be your company's lawyers.
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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They pay you.
The code is theirs, the knowledge is yours.
You've told them that it was not a good idea to give away the code, the final decision is with your boss'.
If they find out later on that it was a mistake, it will not be yours.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Depends on the country and the contract, but in the UK programming is considered a creative art like writing a book in legal terms.
Unless your contract explicitly states that any works you create while working for the employer belong to them, then the copyright and associated IP remain with the author, ie you. Mind youo, some contracts can have some very general terms that you might have to fight in court 8)
I've been lucky and only once have I had to sign away my rights in nearly 40 years of development...
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I'm also in the UK. My contract said basically, anything I make for the company is their's, including ideas about their systems. Anything that I come up with that isn't related (i.e. a game idea in a mailing company) is mine.
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You're luck, the law here states that EVERYTHING developed using ANY resource from the company is company property. That includes software you wrote on your laptop outside your work hours if you use eletricity or internet connection from the company.
I'm brazilian and english (well, human languages in general) aren't my best skill, so, sorry by my english. (if you want we can speak in C# or VB.Net =p)
"Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241
"'Sophisticated platform' typically means 'I have no idea how it works.'"
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I'm curious now, if you were to get a virus because your company antivirus sucked, could you sue them if it ruined your personal files?
("personal" being "entirely created by your resources in your time for your stuff")
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