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working vs. playing? Chris Losinger28-May-01 3:05 Chris Losinger 28-May-01 3:05  i might play with C#, if i have the chance, but i'm not going to be "working" with it. did anyone else make that distinction here? -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com Re: working vs. playing? F Braem28-May-01 4:31 F Braem 28-May-01 4:31  I'm working mostly in Java and playing with C++ Re: working vs. playing? Christian Graus28-May-01 12:25 Christian Graus 28-May-01 12:25  Which do you prefer ? Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first. Re: working vs. playing? Ravi Bhavnani28-May-01 20:04 Ravi Bhavnani 28-May-01 20:04  I'm with Franky. I've been working in Java for the past year+ and have been a VC++ developer since V1.0. I relish interfaces and Java's discovery mechanisms, introspection, and of course automatic gc'ing via reference counting. But imho, there's no easier tool to chrun out Windows (desktop) apps than MFC/VC++. Working in Java has got me started using Java-esque design patterns in my MFC apps. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com Re: working vs. playing? Franky Braem28-May-01 22:27 Franky Braem 28-May-01 22:27  I like C++ more then Java. It really depends on what kind of project I'm working on. I don't like programming a GUI in Java. I do like to program server-programs in Java (servlets, ...). Missing: C++ ? George27-May-01 23:58 George 27-May-01 23:58  Perhaps there should be a checkbox for "plain" C++ (not a Visual, but still C++) since we have a "C" checkbox... Re: Missing: C++ ? Chris Maunder28-May-01 2:53 Chris Maunder 28-May-01 2:53  I ran out of option boxes Which flavour of C++? cheers, Chris Maunder Re: Missing: C++ ? Christian Graus28-May-01 3:20 Christian Graus 28-May-01 3:20  X3J16. The 1996 standard that ( in theory ) all our compilers are supposed to fully support. ( I admit to not having yet read my copy, I tend to stick to Stroustrup 3rd. ed. ). I concur - I looked for it on the basis that while I'm guessing I'll be in the Windows world for some time to come, I work hard at learning things like STL on the basis that they are *standard*, and are skills I can keep and use if I find myself drifting away from the WinTel world, for whatever reason. Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first. Re: Missing: C++ ? Alvaro Mendez29-May-01 5:07 Alvaro Mendez 29-May-01 5:07  I agree, Visual C++ should not be considered a language. It's a development environment for developing Windows apps/components in C++ or C.

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