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 Feel free to smack me with the n00b stick for not reading the sticky. That's what I get for posting after midnight.
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Regarding to entering the Lounge, I have to specify some specific message topic ID (for example: http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=2379178#xx2379178xx[^]). If I just click the main page of the Lounge (AKA: http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx[^]), it gives me the below error message. The failure rate is about 99%. And when it happens, the failure rate becomes absolutely 100%. The only way to get rid of the error is to specify some specific message topic ID (as mentioned above). Otherwise no matter how many refreshes, the error keeps happening and it may last for hours.
-- Unable to load messages due to high load or server error. Please try again --
Maxwell Chen
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Some articles like this one[^], which is not an unedited entry, show a horizontal scroll
bar when reading the body text, no matter what the width of the window is.
The first paragraph renders as any of the following:
"...................As the chapter was"
"split into two sections.............."
"...................As the chapter w" <<<<< BAD
"split into two sections............"
"...................As the chapter"
"was split into two sections......."
"...................As the cha" <<<<< BAD
"was split into two sections.."
depending on window width. It does not apply to all articles.
I am using XP/SP2 and IE6.
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Browser Check
Gecko False
IE True
Opera False
Browser IE
Type IE6
Display Mode Normal
User Agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)
Version 6
Major Version 6
Minor Version 0
Web 2.0 Enabled True
Mobile Device False
Cookies OK? True
Server Web13
Country Belgium
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I think this has to do with a bug in the code regions that are large enough to create a collapsible region. See this post[^] for more details.
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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Hi Scott, yes the behavior for both articles is similar, with one small diff:
the article I refered to allows the lift in the HSCROLL to grow by widening the window,
until it fills the HSCROLL which then disappears; the article you refered to makes the HSCROLL
pop from 80% filled to invisible.
On both the collapse/expand state of the code sections seem not to influence the behavior.
Regards,
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forums with new messages are supposed to be listed in bold, but recently often fail
to do so. My guess is there is an error in the timing logic.
Right now (3:38 PM) the list shows "Forums in bold have new messages since Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:30:00 PM", so after 8 minutes the "new" status is lost?
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It is now 20:28 local time in Belgium (GMT+1).
a message [^] I posted 9 minutes ago in the C# forum does not show the NEW icon, and
(after a reload of course) the forum list shows not a single bold title, although the
footnote says "Forums in bold have new messages since Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:20:00 PM"
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The yellow <font color="yellow">new</font> icons work on my system. But that "in bold" is funny. (Yes I saw the footnote after you pointed out.) Only root posts of each threads are in bold.
Maxwell Chen
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Hi Maxwell,
the NEW icons work most of the time for me too, but it struck me one of my messages did
not get it; so after creating the original message, I decided to add another message to
this thread.
The bold stuff is about the forum table, not the messages themselves; normally the
table items get bolded if there is anything sufficiently recent in that forum, but
somehow the logic seems to be faulty right now.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: The bold stuff is about the forum table, not the messages themselves; normally the
table items get bolded if there is anything sufficiently recent in that forum, but
somehow the logic seems to be faulty right now.
Oh I misunderstood. 
Maxwell Chen
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It's based on your last visit. If you open up a new window then you will have a new last visit time which m,eans new messages won't be highlighted
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hi Chris, thanks for the clarification. Yes I am using multiple windows since that
speeds up the process (I don't have to reload a forum when I navigate back and forth,
it also helps lowering the server load!).
Is the last visit time one global variable, spanning all forums? I tried a little
experiment and cannot tell, this is what I just did, all in a single window:
1. load C# forum; it showed "bold=since 12:07AM", with Lounge and SugBug in bold
2. visited first 5 pages (max 25 msg/page) of SugBug forum, and read all NEW messages
3. visites first 5 pages of Lounge, and read all NEW messages
4. returned to step 1, table was exactly the same
5. repeated steps 1-2-3, found only one new message in Lounge, table was still the same.
It is now 12:38, but the table has not changed at all, so I don't think it is actually
working exactly as you described.
I would like to have a way to decrease the possibility I overlook new messages, so here
are two ideas:
1. limit the "last visit" time to some user selectable span before now; I would set it
at 30 minutes, so a table entry without bold would hold no messages younger than 30 minutes
(whereas a bold entry would hold new messages that I may or may not have read already).
2. or make it possible to disable the automatic unbolding, and provide a manual way
(either a button per forum, or a special way to call it, say with CTRL+click in the table).
One more thing: I typically read a forum from top to where I recognize it from a
previous session, then I return to the top to check no new threads have been added
in the mean time. I think I would prefer to read in chronological order though, hence
two ideas:
3. I would like to have some way to jump to the oldest NEW message in a forum.
4. it could make sense to offer a message button to go to the start of the next
(=more recent) thread, and alternatively to the next (= more recent) thread that holds
a new message.
Regards,
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"Searches in large forums or over a long date range can take a while to complete. In some cases the search may timeout before it has completed. If this occurs please try restricting your search to a shorter date span or to fewer forums."
you mean you don't know if there were no results or if it timed out? cmon this sucks guys. how is the user supposed to guess which one it is?
and it's a pain in ass to get to the search message boards page.
swine
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If a database call times out then no, we don't get anything from the database. I really wish there was a message from SQL along the lines of "We found something, but it was buried really deep under the pile of old clothes in the corner and it took too long to get it so we gave up and had a beer".
But it doesn't. It just tells us that it looked and looked and looked and before it was done looking the time was up.
Swinefeaster wrote: and it's a pain in ass to get to the search message boards page
Every single page has the Search bar at the top. Type your search, select Messages, and go.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: ...and it took too long to get it so we gave up and had a beer
That explains the pic of Bob with the cat-ate-the-canary look holding a beer and a wrench
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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I was just thinking instead of just showing bold bright color for high voted messages and graying out low voted messages, the color span of Gray to bright itself can be made as a function of votes acquired by the message using filter effects.
Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
Um. No.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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What is this, a rainbow playground?
"What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote: a rainbow playground
No. An aesthetic visual appeal to the user. You like Windows XP or Windows Vista compared to a dumb Unix shell only for its cool, neat, beautiful UI right?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: You like Windows XP or Windows Vista compared to a dumb Unix shell only for its cool, neat, beautiful UI right
Ummm...no. Even though a Unix shell may only be command line, it's considerably more powerful than WinXP or Vista. Color gradients have a purpose for aesthetics but generally shouldn't be used to convey information to a user, particularly due to color-blindness.
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
—Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
No. I don't think so.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: No. I don't think so.
That would mean too much of diversified colors. But I was just trying to bring out something like Windows Title bar. Thick to thin color (as it appears in Windows XP). Isn't it?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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In my opinion, the present coloring scheme is good.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
...formerly known as brahmma
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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I have a few suggestions and concerns over the Profile (Who's Who) Page:
1) Suggestion: How about the Profile page having 'View Statistics' feature. The View Statistics can include members who have clicked and visited the page. Of course, if a non-logged in visitor has seen the page, this information would not be available.
2) Profile Visitor Count
3) A User Setting to dictate what information should be shown on the profile or the profile itself is publicly visible or not (like Blogger Profile Setting).
Wouldn't these have more control on the User Profiles?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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1) We can't go showing a list of everyone who has clicked on your profile. There's this thing called Privacy we think is important.
2) This should actually come for free with our new page tracking system. I'll check
3) Why? What would you want to have in your online profile that wasn't, well, viewable online?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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