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forums with new messages are supposed to be listed in bold, but recently often fail
to do so. My guess is there is an error in the timing logic.
Right now (3:38 PM) the list shows "Forums in bold have new messages since Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:30:00 PM", so after 8 minutes the "new" status is lost?
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It is now 20:28 local time in Belgium (GMT+1).
a message [^] I posted 9 minutes ago in the C# forum does not show the NEW icon, and
(after a reload of course) the forum list shows not a single bold title, although the
footnote says "Forums in bold have new messages since Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:20:00 PM"
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The yellow <font color="yellow">new</font> icons work on my system. But that "in bold" is funny. (Yes I saw the footnote after you pointed out.) Only root posts of each threads are in bold.
Maxwell Chen
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Hi Maxwell,
the NEW icons work most of the time for me too, but it struck me one of my messages did
not get it; so after creating the original message, I decided to add another message to
this thread.
The bold stuff is about the forum table, not the messages themselves; normally the
table items get bolded if there is anything sufficiently recent in that forum, but
somehow the logic seems to be faulty right now.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: The bold stuff is about the forum table, not the messages themselves; normally the
table items get bolded if there is anything sufficiently recent in that forum, but
somehow the logic seems to be faulty right now.
Oh I misunderstood. 
Maxwell Chen
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It's based on your last visit. If you open up a new window then you will have a new last visit time which m,eans new messages won't be highlighted
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hi Chris, thanks for the clarification. Yes I am using multiple windows since that
speeds up the process (I don't have to reload a forum when I navigate back and forth,
it also helps lowering the server load!).
Is the last visit time one global variable, spanning all forums? I tried a little
experiment and cannot tell, this is what I just did, all in a single window:
1. load C# forum; it showed "bold=since 12:07AM", with Lounge and SugBug in bold
2. visited first 5 pages (max 25 msg/page) of SugBug forum, and read all NEW messages
3. visites first 5 pages of Lounge, and read all NEW messages
4. returned to step 1, table was exactly the same
5. repeated steps 1-2-3, found only one new message in Lounge, table was still the same.
It is now 12:38, but the table has not changed at all, so I don't think it is actually
working exactly as you described.
I would like to have a way to decrease the possibility I overlook new messages, so here
are two ideas:
1. limit the "last visit" time to some user selectable span before now; I would set it
at 30 minutes, so a table entry without bold would hold no messages younger than 30 minutes
(whereas a bold entry would hold new messages that I may or may not have read already).
2. or make it possible to disable the automatic unbolding, and provide a manual way
(either a button per forum, or a special way to call it, say with CTRL+click in the table).
One more thing: I typically read a forum from top to where I recognize it from a
previous session, then I return to the top to check no new threads have been added
in the mean time. I think I would prefer to read in chronological order though, hence
two ideas:
3. I would like to have some way to jump to the oldest NEW message in a forum.
4. it could make sense to offer a message button to go to the start of the next
(=more recent) thread, and alternatively to the next (= more recent) thread that holds
a new message.
Regards,
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"Searches in large forums or over a long date range can take a while to complete. In some cases the search may timeout before it has completed. If this occurs please try restricting your search to a shorter date span or to fewer forums."
you mean you don't know if there were no results or if it timed out? cmon this sucks guys. how is the user supposed to guess which one it is?
and it's a pain in ass to get to the search message boards page.
swine
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If a database call times out then no, we don't get anything from the database. I really wish there was a message from SQL along the lines of "We found something, but it was buried really deep under the pile of old clothes in the corner and it took too long to get it so we gave up and had a beer".
But it doesn't. It just tells us that it looked and looked and looked and before it was done looking the time was up.
Swinefeaster wrote: and it's a pain in ass to get to the search message boards page
Every single page has the Search bar at the top. Type your search, select Messages, and go.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: ...and it took too long to get it so we gave up and had a beer
That explains the pic of Bob with the cat-ate-the-canary look holding a beer and a wrench
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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I was just thinking instead of just showing bold bright color for high voted messages and graying out low voted messages, the color span of Gray to bright itself can be made as a function of votes acquired by the message using filter effects.
Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
Um. No.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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What is this, a rainbow playground?
"What am I in the eyes of most people, a nonentity, an eccentric, or an unpleasant person--somebody who has no position in society and will never have; in short, the lowest of the low. All right, then--even if that were absolutely true, then I should one day like to show by my work what such an eccentric, such a nobody, has in his heart."
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote: a rainbow playground
No. An aesthetic visual appeal to the user. You like Windows XP or Windows Vista compared to a dumb Unix shell only for its cool, neat, beautiful UI right?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: You like Windows XP or Windows Vista compared to a dumb Unix shell only for its cool, neat, beautiful UI right
Ummm...no. Even though a Unix shell may only be command line, it's considerably more powerful than WinXP or Vista. Color gradients have a purpose for aesthetics but generally shouldn't be used to convey information to a user, particularly due to color-blindness.
Scott.
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: Wouldn't it be more visually appealing?
No. I don't think so.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: No. I don't think so.
That would mean too much of diversified colors. But I was just trying to bring out something like Windows Title bar. Thick to thin color (as it appears in Windows XP). Isn't it?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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In my opinion, the present coloring scheme is good.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
...formerly known as brahmma
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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I have a few suggestions and concerns over the Profile (Who's Who) Page:
1) Suggestion: How about the Profile page having 'View Statistics' feature. The View Statistics can include members who have clicked and visited the page. Of course, if a non-logged in visitor has seen the page, this information would not be available.
2) Profile Visitor Count
3) A User Setting to dictate what information should be shown on the profile or the profile itself is publicly visible or not (like Blogger Profile Setting).
Wouldn't these have more control on the User Profiles?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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1) We can't go showing a list of everyone who has clicked on your profile. There's this thing called Privacy we think is important.
2) This should actually come for free with our new page tracking system. I'll check
3) Why? What would you want to have in your online profile that wasn't, well, viewable online?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: 3) Why? What would you want to have in your online profile that wasn't, well, viewable online?
Check out this profile for example (http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/Profiles.aspx?mid=3978578[^]). It has email address. This should be actually disallowed or suppressed from being displayed since mailto: URLs are vulnerable to being preyed upon by spam robots.
Also, there was a 'Birth Day' column for some profiles. Isn't it? If a fully qualified mm/dd/yyyy format is being publicly displayed, that might be a security vulnerability since these days banks have DoB as one of the credential verification.
Next -- We need to have a step to thwart attempts by some Trolls putting junk info on profile and linking to thier rubbish websites.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Your talking about something different then. If someone is unwise enough to make an email address public then they probably aren't going to also check the "make this private".
I still don't understand what the use of private information would be. It's not viewable. Why even have it?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: If a fully qualified mm/dd/yyyy format is being publicly displayed, that might be a security vulnerability since these days banks have DoB as one of the credential verification
I simply do not put my d.o.b. in my profile.
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: Also, there was a 'Birth Day' column for some profiles. Isn't it? If a fully qualified mm/dd/yyyy format is being publicly displayed, that might be a security vulnerability since these days banks have DoB as one of the credential verification.
Come on VDK. How will anyone know your bank a/c no? With your DOB alone, do you think somebody could rob your bank a/c? If that still was possible, you always have an option not to provide the details that you think are private and confidential. There is no point in filling up your DOB and complaining about it.
I think you're running low on coffee.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Is Message (forum search) restricted only to the new CodeProject (post-upgrade)?
There seems to be some hiccup that search always matches no records when going before upgrade timestamp.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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