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KarstenK wrote: It is shocking at the people like using Notepad.
One answer : KISS
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Notepad is on every Windows PC out there. It works with minimal resources and is really useful when at a client's office. I wouldn't use it everyday for coding but it is a useful text editor to know.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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You are right, for working on other PCs is it useful to have notepad on board. But if you got to really work with text files you better use a more powerful program.
Greetings from Germany
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...."to know"?
....wow, interesting.... but to know WHAT? 
I find more complexity in this form where I'm typing now.... 
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Good luck when you have to open a 10megabyte XML file in Notepad in front of a client in their offices. You need to know a few tricks for that.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Yeah, that's sorta the answer i was expecting to see here somewhere. But, IMHO, it's like the appliance repair guy showing up and asking you for a spoon to use as a screwdriver. Sure, it's commonly available and you can make it work in a pinch, but it's much, much better to carry your own toolkit and just avoid pinches...
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I don't think that analogy works too well. If I brought my favourite bit of software along to a client's office (say, Visual Studio) and said "I have to install this 3 gigabyte app to fix your XML file" I don't think they'd be too chuffed. Plus it would probably break most software licenses.
Bringing along your own laptop with VS installed is good but I've been there and not been able to connect to their network (for security reasons) or get the file off their computer (for security reasons.)
In one case I ended up learning on the spot how to use cs.exe to recompile a C# app. that I had to use Notepad to edit. They wouldn't let me hook up my laptop (for security reasons.) Frustrating though strangely educational 
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Paul Watson wrote: If I brought my favourite bit of software along to a client's office (say, Visual Studio) and said "I have to install this 3 gigabyte app to fix your XML file" I don't think they'd be too chuffed.
VS isn't a screwdriver*. To use my repair guy analogy, installing VS would be like dragging in a lathe or maybe a whole CNC machine. Utterly ridiculous. Doesn't stop you from keeping a little text editor like SciTE on a thumb drive where you can use it without installing anything.
The security issue is a real concern, and yeah, sooner or later you will have to get by without proper tools. But that should be the exception, not the norm.
*though chugging a screwdriver can be helpful when using it...
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Shog9 wrote: But that should be the exception, not the norm.
It should be but most of the corporates I've been to won't let an external contractor plug anything into their network without network admin approving it in advance. They won't let their own users plug their own USB drives in either (data theft, viruses etc.)
And I wouldn't call scite a proper tool 
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Paul Watson wrote: It should be but most of the corporates I've been to won't let an external contractor plug anything into their network without network admin approving it in advance.
Must really suck to be an external contractor then.
Paul Watson wrote: And I wouldn't call scite a proper tool
Yeah, yeah. That's just the sort of attitude i'd expect from a Notepad devote...
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Shog9 wrote: Yeah, yeah. That's just the sort of attitude i'd expect from a Notepad devote...
vi for me now in a pinch.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Is notepad still unable to read Unix style endlines in Vista, or did they finally fix that?
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I have been using editplus for almost 3-4 years. I heard that SlikEdit is a good editor too.
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Currently using SlickEdit, since version 6.x, before that I used RimStar, Brief, Sage, PWB, M, and WordStar on CPM and DOS.
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