Survey Results

10-Jun-07 18:27

Really?
What makes up the unfavored list? EDLIN? copy con? Unsure | :~

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KarstenK10-Jun-07 21:35

KarstenK

10-Jun-07 21:35

It is shocking at the people like using Notepad. Mad | :mad:

My favourite ist Ultraedit it is syntax highlighting for different languages, a nice diff tool (BUT WinMerg rocks!!! Cool | :cool:

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This really enhances working productivity and makes text editing fun. Big Grin | :-D

Greetings from Germany

akyriako7810-Jun-07 22:16

akyriako78

10-Jun-07 22:16

KarstenK wrote:
It is shocking at the people like using Notepad.

One answer : KISS

KarstenK10-Jun-07 22:37

KarstenK

10-Jun-07 22:37

Another option ist NOT to turn on the PC Laugh | :laugh:

Greetings from Germany

Paul Watson11-Jun-07 1:16

11-Jun-07 1:16

Notepad is on every Windows PC out there. It works with minimal resources and is really useful when at a client's office. I wouldn't use it everyday for coding but it is a useful text editor to know.

regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

KarstenK11-Jun-07 1:41

KarstenK

11-Jun-07 1:41

You are right, for working on other PCs is it useful to have notepad on board. But if you got to really work with text files you better use a more powerful program.

Greetings from Germany

jakomax11-Jun-07 1:44

jakomax

11-Jun-07 1:44

...."to know"?

....wow, interesting.... but to know WHAT? Unsure | :~

I find more complexity in this form where I'm typing now.... Laugh | :laugh:

Paul Watson11-Jun-07 1:51

11-Jun-07 1:51

Good luck when you have to open a 10megabyte XML file in Notepad in front of a client in their offices. You need to know a few tricks for that.

regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

Shog⁹11-Jun-07 5:02

11-Jun-07 5:02

Yeah, that's sorta the answer i was expecting to see here somewhere. But, IMHO, it's like the appliance repair guy showing up and asking you for a spoon to use as a screwdriver. Sure, it's commonly available and you can make it work in a pinch, but it's much, much better to carry your own toolkit and just avoid pinches...

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Paul Watson11-Jun-07 5:13

11-Jun-07 5:13

I don't think that analogy works too well. If I brought my favourite bit of software along to a client's office (say, Visual Studio) and said "I have to install this 3 gigabyte app to fix your XML file" I don't think they'd be too chuffed. Plus it would probably break most software licenses.

Bringing along your own laptop with VS installed is good but I've been there and not been able to connect to their network (for security reasons) or get the file off their computer (for security reasons.)

In one case I ended up learning on the spot how to use cs.exe to recompile a C# app. that I had to use Notepad to edit. They wouldn't let me hook up my laptop (for security reasons.) Frustrating though strangely educational Big Grin | :-D

regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

Shog⁹11-Jun-07 5:56

11-Jun-07 5:56

Paul Watson wrote:
If I brought my favourite bit of software along to a client's office (say, Visual Studio) and said "I have to install this 3 gigabyte app to fix your XML file" I don't think they'd be too chuffed.

VS isn't a screwdriver^*. To use my repair guy analogy, installing VS would be like dragging in a lathe or maybe a whole CNC machine. Utterly ridiculous. Doesn't stop you from keeping a little text editor like SciTE on a thumb drive where you can use it without installing anything.

The security issue is a real concern, and yeah, sooner or later you will have to get by without proper tools. But that should be the exception, not the norm.

^{*though chugging a screwdriver can be helpful when using it...}

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Paul Watson11-Jun-07 6:06

11-Jun-07 6:06

Shog9 wrote:
But that should be the exception, not the norm.

It should be but most of the corporates I've been to won't let an external contractor plug anything into their network without network admin approving it in advance. They won't let their own users plug their own USB drives in either (data theft, viruses etc.)

And I wouldn't call scite a proper tool Wink | ;)

regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

Shog⁹11-Jun-07 9:59

11-Jun-07 9:59

Paul Watson wrote:
It should be but most of the corporates I've been to won't let an external contractor plug anything into their network without network admin approving it in advance.

Must really suck to be an external contractor then.

Paul Watson wrote:
And I wouldn't call scite a proper tool

Yeah, yeah. That's just the sort of attitude i'd expect from a Notepad devote... Wink | ;)

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Paul Watson12-Jun-07 1:12