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[Chewin the fat stylee] Oooo.......[/Chewin the fat stylee] get out of bed the wrong side this morning  ?
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How much did that post increase your reputation?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: How much did that post increase your reputation?
I didn't ask anyone to vote. So I really don't care.
24 wonderful, glorious points, if you really must know.
Just along for the ride.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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Slacker007 wrote: 24 wonderful, glorious points, if you really must know.
Okay, how about now? 
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I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today. If CP hadn't adopted something like it, it may not have been able to catch up with other sites like MSDN forums (where they have a new status/medal/points system) and Stack Overflow (where they have a very similar and more complex rep score system).
Sadly, I personally know that Chris had this idea way before sites like Stack Overflow were born. I don't know the exact reasons (I am guessing lack of time) but he delayed implementing it on CP for a long time (and by that time other sites came up with the same ideas).
Most people who seriously contribute here (responding in Q-A, forums, writing in-depth articles) do it voluntarily but the vast majority of them enjoy the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores. The reasoning is similar to why major software companies have MVP programs. It allows volunteer contributors to keep relative track of how they contribute over others. It’s for the same reason that charities have a hall of fame of their top contributors. Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today.
Maybe in part but not in entirety. However, I know what you mean.
I go to a lot of different websites for my coding insight, research, and general knowledge (i.e. answers  ) but I ALWAYS come back here. This site has something that not even Stack Overblow or other sites have...personality.
I love this site. I think most of us do and we will do anything and everything to keep the hampsters well fed.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
I like a good ego boost every now and then, this is true. However, I am not for new an inventive ways of boosting my ego; such as, where and how can I get more ego points.
Just along for the ride.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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Slacker007 wrote: I like a good ego boost every now and then, this is true. However, I am not for
new an inventive ways of boosting my ego; such as, where and how can I get more
ego points.
That's because you are like one of those super selfless guys, I am talking about Gandhi and Jesus and the like 
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin.
Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began.
If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points.
The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
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I think, Hans, you have missed the point too, a little.
Many people truly enjoy having recognition of participation.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Many people truly enjoy having recognition of participation.
This!
I personally enjoy seeing my rep score climb up when I post articles or get up-votes. But is that my solitary reason for contributing here? The answer to that would be that over 80% of my articles and posts were published way before the rep score system went live. If the rep score system was cancelled in future, it would take away some fun, but it won't stop me (or most other people) from participating here.
Many old-time regulars have left for other reasons (which are off-topic to this thread), but as far as I know not a single person has left because the site's now giving people points for answering.
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Why does it matter to you (or anyone else) what the reasons are that drive people into contributing here? Someone answering questions in Q-A for purely altruistic reasons does not contribute any more or any less than someone doing the same to boost his reputation score. I don’t think any of us here (including Chris) has the moral ascendancy to judge the motives/ethics behind a member’s contributions here. As far as the website is concerned, what matters is that the community gets helped out in the best manner possible.
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Nothing to add! 
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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Hans Dietrich wrote: the CodeProject site became a huge online game
It is a game. Read about gamification. Even Stack Exchange does it. Here is a quote from Jeff Atwood:
Jeff Atwood wrote: I play the Stack Exchange game happily alongside everyone else, collecting reputation and badges and rank and upvotes, and I am proud to do so, because I believe it ultimately helps me become more knowledgeable and a better communicator while also improving the very fabric of the web for everyone. I hope you feel the same way.
Somebody in an online forum wrote: INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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This article;
Getting to the Top of the Pecking Order[^]
Is a copy of this;
http://pbdj.sys-con.com/node/1951577[^]
However, I don't know if yaxW [^] is Yakov Werde[^], as not enough information in the member biog. (His other listed articles can also be found over at PowerBuilder Journal). Don't know how the copyright would stand anyway with PBJ.
Also a lot of the members articles are in the Third Party tools section, and don't know if this is the right place for them as "Articles in this section are for the members only" which seems to limit the exposure.....
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In Question/Answer section i have wrote a comment here: Make div visibility false using jquery[^]
The comment is :
You can also try replacing <input> hidden field with <asp:hiddenfield> control.. you can use any of these...
Now when i go to my Reputation History page it shows an INPUT DOM ELEMENT in ITEM column, instead of <input>
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Cheers,
Kiran (http://kirandangar.wordpress.com/)
modified 21-Oct-11 5:19am.
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There is a bug icon you can use you know......
edit: ps, i didn't 1-vote you!
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Thanks for pointing that...
I missed to set icon
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Cheers,
Kiran (http://kirandangar.wordpress.com/)
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Just replace < with < and > with >. I always do this when entering or editing comments as some tags are allowed in comments like <b> and <i> <span> etc.
Univote countered!
Cheers!
—MRB
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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Hey, Thanks for the info...
It stricked while writing comment, but was curious to know if its been taken care or not
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Cheers,
Kiran (http://kirandangar.wordpress.com/)
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What did you mean with "stricked"?
"struck" per chance?
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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The issue is that the reputation history shouldn't be allowing markup (especially not input fields), not that the OP doesn't know how to HTML encode markup in comments. This is a bona fide bug.
Somebody in an online forum wrote: INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Security is the main concern nowadays in every field and we have to deal with so many security aspects/problems. I would like to suggest to have a forum based on Cyber Security issues in CP to cover most of the problems on following topics (you can suggest to add more topics).
- NIDS, HIDS, AIDS (Intrusion Detection Systems)
- EDS (Extrusion Detection System)
- Security policies e.g., Access control, Password sharing and management, etc
- Vulnerability assessment
- Attack analysis, modeling and Survivability simulation
- Physical and Environmental security
- Cryptography, Cryptanalysis
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When we see popular demand for this specific forum we'll add it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Today's meaty (bacon ?) flavored discussions on the merits and de-merits of the voting system, and anonymity, and Nish-ji's comments on distinguishing views from Members from views from Guests ... inspired me thus:
Each time a poster of a Lounge thread, comment, Q/A answer or question, Article, etc. clicks to open their own content: they have some number of points added to a new rep category: 'Narcissus.'
However, if they then edit the content in any way, the Narcissus-point is removed. Let's leave open the possibility of analysis of edits-per-unit-time which, if high frequency, may be indicative of compulsive-obsessive disorder which is inherently Narcissistic.
Other behaviors that might be appropriate for Narcissus score evaluation:
1. posting frequent updates, solicitations, screenshots, etc., on your own article or project on the Lounge (aka JSOP).
1.a. This brings the interesting idea to mind that members with a high-level rep, who post programming questions in the Lounge might be evaluated for Narcissus points.
2. answering your own questions on Q/A, and accepting your own answer.
And, of course it would be 'poetic justice' if this post itself was awarded Narcissus points ... after all, the spring where Narcissus became self-ensorcelled is located on Mt. Helicon in the same area as the sacred grove of the Muses beloved of poets ... a place where as late as the 2nd. century CE the Roman traveler, Pausanias, was still able to observe the sacred tripod won as the prize for poetry by Hesiod in the 5th. century BCE.
best, Bill
CE = Christian Calendar
BCE = before year zero of the Christian Calendar
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted
line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
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Bill you are a genius!
This deserves more than I can give! Have a five anyhow.
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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