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What is 'standby'? Hibernate? That won't help with pushing patches.
Cheers,
Vıkram.
After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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The last 2 companies i've worked for ask people to shutdown for the night. When something needs to be pushed they send an email requesting people keep their computers on.
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If it's a SP, I understand. What about hotfixes and antivirus patches?
Cheers,
Vıkram.
After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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Shutting down or leaving the PCs overnight also is controlled by Corporate Policies right? The Corporate Administration Team may like to audit the systems only when there is no project billable activity and they can do them only over night.
A significant number of Bangalore-based organizations here in India follow this practice. What do you say?
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you are speaking of corporate policies. well sir they have stickers on every system organization wide
Switching off CPU saves 29 units per month
Switching off monitor saves 29 units per month
Now say 
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Regards...
Shouvik
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Don't these corporates know about Wake-On-Lan?! Seems like that would be perfect on the rare occasion that they need to urgently push out a patch...
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You are assuming that the corporate policy is both enforced and followed. I have worked places where it wasn't enforced so wasn't followed, I was one of less than 25% that followed the policy of shutting down (If I were to guess more than half were still logged in)
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Remember that the question is specifically about your WORK machine. Realizing that most of us work for a company and may also have PCs at home, we are talking about the PC we use for our job at our place of work.
So, what's to gain? Your employer will save money due to power savings. This may be significant or negligible, depending on many factors, including the size and nature of the business, number of PCs, other expenses, etc. My PC is using about 200 Watts with power costing 20 cents per KW/Hour. Over 16 hours this works out to roughly 64 cents per night, let's round that up to $1 for arguments sake.
So, what's to lose? The company will lose some of your time every morning. This will obviously vary from company to company and person to person, depending on your companies systems and your role and level of competence/expertise. For me, it takes around 10 minutes to start from a cold boot and load my system and applications I need to do my job. Now those of us that have been in business will know that an employee's salary is about half the cost of employing someone. Therefore, in my case the 10 minutes is costing my employer around $20.
I realize that there are many other perceived gains and losses, but I seriously doubt that any are both objective and quantifiable.
I would suggest if you indulge in this practice (turning off your PC over-night) or are contemplating it, sit down with your boss and calculate the actuals that will apply in your case and let them determine whether or not they are willing to foot the bill.
As I said in my earlier post, turning off your monitor is a good compromise, as it will save your employer money in reduced power, but will not penalize them with the cost of lost productivity.
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GeoffFitzGerald wrote: Remember that the question is specifically about your WORK machine.
It doesn't say that in the poll question.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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GeoffFitzGerald wrote:
Remember that the question is specifically about your WORK machine.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It doesn't say that in the poll question.
The poll question says: Convenience vs energy savings: which one wins when it comes to your daily work computer?
Which part of 'daily work computer' don't you understand?
Cheers,
Vıkram.
After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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I read the big yellow words - everything else is fluff. If someone wants my machine turned off after I leave, they can damn well walk by and turn it off.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Even if it is only $1 a night, it is the environmental cost what really makes a difference, turning off the monitor at nigths can be the best practice because the monitor consumes most of the power and wouldn´t make you lose time in the mornings.
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The company I work for, have a policy for employees to switch off(not sleep or hibernate) the PCs and monitors before going off, though it is not a strict policy. The IT support have implemented a Wake-On-LAN whereby the server will switch on the PCs at 5am daily except Saturdays and Sundays, to do anti-virus scan. Of course, not all PCs in the company supports WOL.
My company embraces/supports environment friendly policies very much.
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I put my system in stand by mode when I am not using it for a few hours
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My monitors are turned off but in the mornings, I do a quick reboot to allow Windows to connect to Microsoft Windows Update (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/[^]) website on startup.
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maybe you can hibernate your pc...
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jjlopez
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: Windows Hibernation is not good for Hard disk
hey it said that it is good for hard drive
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Regards...
Shouvik
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um... lost in translation? who knows.
i hibernate my laptop all the time. love a working hibernate feature.
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Overnight I run BOINC. So while it is using power, it is in theory doing good for the world 
Hogan
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I run F@H overnight on my two work machines. One is a quad-core Mac that gets some big WUs that are worth a lot of points. 
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Really, a major reason that I turn off my computer is the sound of all those fans.
I sometimes wish after thinking to multiple cores and more and more speed, Intel and AMD decide to consider the sound! These fans try me crazy! When I shut down my computer, late in the evening, I just feel the silence and wonder; will this sound cause any disease! I hope not.
// "Life is very short and is very fragile also." Yanni
while (I'm_alive)
{
cout<<"I love programming.";
}
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If your system makes so much noise, you should consider doing the following:
1) Get a bigger case. The closer the parts are in the case, the less likely that they'll be able to cool themselves sufficiently.
2) When you buy a case, make sure it's got at least TWO 120mm fan openings - one for intake, one for exhaust.
3) Get a more efficient CPU cooler. When you buy one, make sure it has (or allows) a 120mm fan. These coolers will be *huge*, but they'll be almost silent.
4) Get a Power supply that has a 120mm fan, and if possible, TWO fans.
5) Get a fan rheostat device. These mount in drive bays and allow you to control the speed (and therefore the noise) your fans make.
Why 120mm fans? Because they move more air at lower revolutions, thereby creating less noise. Also, buy QUALITY fans. Don't cheap out.
I have a 18-inch aluminum cube case with five high-quality 120mm case fans, a 120mm fan on the CPU cooler, and two power supplies that each have a 120mm fan, and you can barely hear my machine even when you're sitting right next to it. I use two fan rheostat devices (each device controls three fans) to control the speed of the case fans, and the case is so huge that even the four hard drives I have in it don't affect the heat level in the case. Right now, my inner case temperature is just 26.6 degrees C.
I also have a 8800GTX card and even when playing a 3D intensive game, you can't hear my system running.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Very good information, got my 5.
Thank you John.
// "Life is very short and is very fragile also." Yanni
while (I'm_alive)
{
cout<<"I love programming.";
}
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 4) Get a Power supply that has a 120mm fan, and if possible, TWO fans.
Good PSUs have variable fan speed, depending on the system load. Also look for a PSU with a fan on the underside, rather than the back, they're generally much quieter.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 8800GTX card
After going to quiet PSU, my graphics card fan is now the loudest  . It's not a heavy duty card either. I'm hoping to get a high end AND quiet GPU (if there is such a thing).
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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