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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: ...which implicitly maps to "If I'd make more money"
Perhaps. I've had clients where I feel like I'm losing money. Fixed price contracts come in mind. Monthly retainers where the client expects 80 hour weeks.
It's a lot easier to lose money working than it is to make money working.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Fixed price contracts come in mind.
cost plus award fee baby... that's all I'm sayin' FFP just never works out, especially for new clients, as you're _never_ going to get the requirements pinned down on the first pass. If it's a client i've worked for in the past and I'm familiar with their domain and needs, then maybe I'll go FFP just to be competitive. If they don't go for a CPAF proposal, then I was probably better off not getting the contract anyway.
~Nitron.
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Marc Clifton wrote: It's a lot easier to lose money working than it is to make money working.
Good quote there
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Nish
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It is better for your clients if you use what makes you happy though. Disgruntled programmers don't produce great code.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
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K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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You should aim for a win-win situation when choosing a programming language and development environment. This means maximum profit for both parties
WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?
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win-win is nice to think about but often leads to compromise-compromise and ends up with nobody being happy.
But yes. That was my point, matching happy developers with happy clients rather than the developer taking on any project regardless of whether they like developing in what the client needs.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
Colib and ilikecameras.
K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Marc Clifton wrote: It's what my client wants, or what's the right tool for the job.
Exactly.
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Because when you make more money, typically you improve your chances of having more fun, and you implicitly have a job (hence more money), the future of the environment really doesn't matter and your company buys the tools for you. So, as with most things in life, get more money and everything else falls into place.
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Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: your company buys the tools for y
Does that means that we'll change if our boss tell us so.
<italic>Work hard, Work effectively.
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Yulianto. wrote: Does that means that we'll change if our boss tell us so.
Well it's his(or her) company, not yours, so you should I think
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Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: with most things
Happily you mentioned most of things and not everything ...
~RaGE();
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Rage wrote: Happily you mentioned most of things and not everything ...
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Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: get more money and everything else falls into place.
Highly not true, imho! For me, making good money is a necessary (bit not sufficient) condition.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: For me, making good money is a necessary (bit not sufficient) condition.
Agreed, but whatever problems you have, it'd be easier to solve them if you had money than if you didn't
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Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: whatever problems you have, it'd be easier to solve them if you had money than if you didn't
Hmm, I don't know. I haven't had any. Money that is, not problems.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Hmm, I don't know. I haven't had any. Money that is, not problems.
Looks like we've led similar lives then, Ravi
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Nish
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Salary increases have never made me a happier person. Think back to your first paycheque and your current one. Are you that much happier because of the difference?
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
Colib and ilikecameras.
K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Paul Watson wrote: Salary increases have never made me a happier person. Think back to your first paycheque and your current one. Are you that much happier because of the difference?
If I got that salary today, I'd be a very unhappy person.
If I got today's salary then, I'd have been a much happier person then.
And while the first couple of pay cheques I ever got in my life felt heavenly, I quickly ran into money related issues. It took me so many years to buy my first laptop and my first digital camera - in fact I had to wait till I got my US job to do that.
Through some serious effort in the last few years, I've got myself all those things money cannot buy Now I just need those things for which I need money.
Next goal - an European holiday with Smitha! *sigh* That's gonna take me a while to achieve!
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Nish
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Paul Watson wrote: Salary increases have never made me a happier person.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Having more money does not make my job more enjoyable. If my job sucks when I'm making X dollars, it will still suck if I'm making 2*X dollars. Even though I'll have more money in the bank, the majority of my waking hours will be spent doing something I don't like.
--Mike--
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They are endeed important, but money are not a purpose in themselves, but means to an end. If you spend 90% of your active life making them, then what possibly could be that end? I would rather have more time for myself than more money. I would rather have more peace in my life than more money.
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Pandele Florin wrote: If you spend 90% of your active life making them
Making money and spending it at the same time - that's what I am talking about It's really easy to spend money!
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Nish
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Dont forget that money cant buy you all: your free time, family and your personal health.
Money has also a psychological aspect, every 100 more make you less happier. Its different if you earn after a raise 600 =(500+100) or 2100 = (2000+100)
Greeting from Germany
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KarstenK wrote: Dont forget that money cant buy you all: your free time, family and your personal health.
I already have everything that money cannot buy. I just need the money now
KarstenK wrote: Money has also a psychological aspect, every 100 more make you less happier. Its different if you earn after a raise 600 =(500+100) or 2100 = (2000+100)
Not for me, not so far anyway.
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Nish
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It will be the future product, because it is easy and fun to use, will make more money (efficient coding). So there could be 3 answers.
<italic>Work hard, Work effectively.
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I gave up C++/MFC for C# to improve my productivity.
I gave up writing C# Winforms code to use MyXaml as it improved my productivity.
My next step is to get more into Model driven development to move further away from the code-face.
Michael
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