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I was reading an article about Java 8 free updates going away in a couple of days (What to do when free Java 8 updates end | InfoWorld[^])
Then, I decided to check my version of Java installed on my machine. I really only use it for Android dev.
It said I had version 10-something. Java versioning has always confused me. I checked for updates in Control Panel.
I then said, "Ok, let's update."
Then a thing came back and said, you need to uninstall old outdated versions (10-something).
"Ok," said I. "I hear and obey."
remove it all
I let it uninstall and then waited and assumed that it was going to install the latest version. I kept waiting and nothing. now I have no Java installed on my machine.
Java Update?
I guess this (complete Java removal) is considered a java update! 
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Well, at least it's an improvement, unlike some updates I could mention.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Well, at least it's an improvement, unlike some updates I could mention.
We're looking at you Win10! 
It's a weird thing. I no longer have that Java control panel item, but I definitely have SDK 10.x and the JRE on the machine so I have no idea what that even did.
Oh, well, probably just a virus. 
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It might be a winio error.
They've been working on the whole control-panel applet/cr@ppy "settings tool" thing, so it's not unlikely that they've bollixed it up, rather than java.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: so it's not unlikely that they've bollixed it up, rather than java.
That's a very good point. It's also annoying that the [Control Panel] menu item was removed from the Start droplist.
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raddevus wrote: I guess this (complete Java removal) is considered a java update!
Shhh... Don't give the Redmond folks ideas for the next Windows update!
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Just a thought, still in process of being processed, but I was considering the possibility that the universe cannot "run down" - i.e., be completely consumed by entropy.
Here's the basic thought: one could divide the universe into two types of regions: the 'void' and regions of content randomly dispersed throughout the void. Now, let's consider all of the regions of content.
If all of them (i.e., all of existence) reached a final state of chaos then the whole of it would no longer have random content between the void - and thus their very existence in a state of total chaos is a contradiction. It would be incumbent upon existence to essentially become less chaotic in arbitrary local regions in order for the whole of existence to remain truly chaotic: it must not have the content of all places 'with stuff' be the same and thus, in a form of homogeneity.
Now I'm not set on fully believing in this, yet, but it would essentially require that the universe's tendency towards chaos requires it to create local order (rewind) in order to become chaotic (contradiction, again?). A possible mechanism to undo chaos may be a reversal of local time, but that's somewhat shooting form the hip based on a conjecture and hand waving.
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Nah, it's battery powered - I thought you knew that?
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And here I am, trying to remember if I need to stop for milk on the way home from work...
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Ahh - that goes back to the original Schroedinger's Milk-in-the-Fridge problem.
and it's variant:
- Milk in the cat
- Cat in the fridge
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That works surprisingly well: you can't tell if the milk is OK or off until you pour it into the tea or coffee...
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I use the classic sniff test. 
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Doesn't always work. There is a point at which it's almost off but doesn't smell - putting it in tea or coffee will instantly "curdle" it and form "needles" which means the cup has to be poured down the sink and restarted. Schrodinger's Milk!
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A better test would be to pour some of it into the cat, since they'll turn their nose up at it if it's the tiniest bit off.
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That's not a good test: like most adults cats he's a bit lactose intolerant (they lose the ability to absorb it when their digestive system changes while weaning). And guess who gets to clean up cat puke?
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I didn't say it was a particularly tidy test, just an accurate one...
I have a senior cat who does exactly as you describe. She's also known for producing hair balls of greater size than her own body weight  .
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If you believe that energy and matter cannot be destroyed (or created), only changed in form then what does entropy do with it all? Does it have a big attic somewhere to put all this stuff? If so, does it get the stuff out again once it is full and that's where the cyclical universe theory comes from? 
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Forogar wrote: what does entropy do with it all?
Nothing, in particular.
Entropy stored? Interesting concept. At present I think of it in terms of order, stored, and eventually consumed. But it's an interesting idea in considering it as a stored commodity.
When you dig a whole, does it always leave a pile of un-hole, and if so, was it (and everything else) just 'stored hole'?
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Here's Tom with the weather.
(Tool)
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Maybe it periodically has a cosmic yard sale? In extreme cases it makes it on an episode of Hoarders.
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Well, like a good author who once wrote:
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”
My guess is that somewhere between that, and being put away by "top men.(tm)"
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For those of you that are not married, I offer my example of an explanation of entropy and matter being transformed from one state to another. Those of you that are married, regardless of how long, will understand.
Entropy occurs when the balance on your credit cards gradually erode, the balances moving ever so close to extinction. The currency, associated with that credit card, is transformed into shoes, dresses, jewelry, etc. Fortunately, the cycle begins over each month.
Mr. Einstein would have made this explanation way to complicated. Hopefully, I've simplified it.
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Without being a physics scholar I think it has to do with the precise definition of entropy. Assuming we accept the Big Bang Theory, there were no galaxies, planets or snowflakes. Now there is stuff like that. Yet, I assume that the entropy, on a higher level or scale has increased. I also, as a hobby scientist, assume that total entropy will not be reached, only approached.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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The Big Bang, causing "everything" to disperse, is the ultimate entropy event. Your asymptotic view could fit into an idea that as long as the universe is expanding it cannot reach a final state. On the other hand, if it is not expanding fast enough, and thus will eventually collapse back to a singularity (?), then the universe would, indeed, be self-winding.
The current philosophy (and observations) indicate that, when you take into account systems and surroundings, entropy always increases. Are we to consider that everything will be infinitely dispersed? Er - I don't know.
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