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Ahh - that goes back to the original Schroedinger's Milk-in-the-Fridge problem.
and it's variant:
- Milk in the cat
- Cat in the fridge
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That works surprisingly well: you can't tell if the milk is OK or off until you pour it into the tea or coffee...
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I use the classic sniff test. 
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Doesn't always work. There is a point at which it's almost off but doesn't smell - putting it in tea or coffee will instantly "curdle" it and form "needles" which means the cup has to be poured down the sink and restarted. Schrodinger's Milk!
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A better test would be to pour some of it into the cat, since they'll turn their nose up at it if it's the tiniest bit off.
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That's not a good test: like most adults cats he's a bit lactose intolerant (they lose the ability to absorb it when their digestive system changes while weaning). And guess who gets to clean up cat puke?
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I didn't say it was a particularly tidy test, just an accurate one... 
I have a senior cat who does exactly as you describe. She's also known for producing hair balls of greater size than her own body weight  .
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If you believe that energy and matter cannot be destroyed (or created), only changed in form then what does entropy do with it all? Does it have a big attic somewhere to put all this stuff? If so, does it get the stuff out again once it is full and that's where the cyclical universe theory comes from? 
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Forogar wrote: what does entropy do with it all?
Nothing, in particular.
Entropy stored? Interesting concept. At present I think of it in terms of order, stored, and eventually consumed. But it's an interesting idea in considering it as a stored commodity.
When you dig a whole, does it always leave a pile of un-hole, and if so, was it (and everything else) just 'stored hole'?
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Here's Tom with the weather.
(Tool)
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Maybe it periodically has a cosmic yard sale? In extreme cases it makes it on an episode of Hoarders.
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Well, like a good author who once wrote:
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”
My guess is that somewhere between that, and being put away by "top men.(tm)"
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For those of you that are not married, I offer my example of an explanation of entropy and matter being transformed from one state to another. Those of you that are married, regardless of how long, will understand.
Entropy occurs when the balance on your credit cards gradually erode, the balances moving ever so close to extinction. The currency, associated with that credit card, is transformed into shoes, dresses, jewelry, etc. Fortunately, the cycle begins over each month.
Mr. Einstein would have made this explanation way to complicated. Hopefully, I've simplified it.
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Without being a physics scholar I think it has to do with the precise definition of entropy. Assuming we accept the Big Bang Theory, there were no galaxies, planets or snowflakes. Now there is stuff like that. Yet, I assume that the entropy, on a higher level or scale has increased. I also, as a hobby scientist, assume that total entropy will not be reached, only approached.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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The Big Bang, causing "everything" to disperse, is the ultimate entropy event. Your asymptotic view could fit into an idea that as long as the universe is expanding it cannot reach a final state. On the other hand, if it is not expanding fast enough, and thus will eventually collapse back to a singularity (?), then the universe would, indeed, be self-winding.
The current philosophy (and observations) indicate that, when you take into account systems and surroundings, entropy always increases. Are we to consider that everything will be infinitely dispersed? Er - I don't know.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Are we to consider that everything will be infinitely dispersed?
If you take into consideration that the universe's expansion is accelerating, instead of decelerating, then that's my best bet, when a hypothesis like the Big Rip will happen.
Of course, the other way around is still possible, like hypothesized by the Big Crunch, which would lead for a cyclic universe lifespam, but I believe more in the former, hoping for the latter.
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Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Slacker007 wrote: What if C A T really spelled Dog?
Perhaps the answer can be found here.[^]
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Apparently you haven't heard of the holographic simulation theory.
Caveat Emptor.
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What? The one on the 13th floor?
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Some say life is anti-entropy. If so, it may qualify as your "self-winding" idea.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Alas, everything you do to stay alive increases the universe's entropy. Remember, always, it's system+surroundings. The food you eat, for example.
Some of it is used to make orderly structures to maintain your vessel, but this is driven by other reactions to supply the energy necessary to create the material. You breath out CO2 as the final product of extracting energy from (and increasing the entropy of) the majority of what you ingest.
The constant increase in entropy as a consequence of all events is fundamentally related to giving a direction of time.
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