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Re: Nothing beats Monochrome ! Christof Schardt26-Jan-05 18:29 Christof Schardt 26-Jan-05 18:29  I remember my old Atari-days: The ProScreen TT 19" was a perfect monitor, the image lying clear like a sheet of A4-paper in front of you!!! Meanwhile I got comfortable with an Elsa 18"-TFT. But I still miss this 'paper-feeling'. However I doubt, that I could work without the benefits of color, which has overtaken an important role in information-presentation and signalling (e.g. syntax-coloring). Questions: 1. What are your experiences? Are grayscales enough? Do you miss something? 2. I couldn't find that mono-TFT from Eizo in the net. Do you have a link or a more detailed spec. ? Regards Christof Re: Nothing beats Monochrome ! Pierre Arnaud26-Jan-05 19:18 Pierre Arnaud 26-Jan-05 19:18  I am missing syntax coloring a bit, that's true, but you get used to the different grays. I have a multi-monitor setup with an old color CRT for the situations where color is really needed. EIZO has a full line of 1MP, 2MP, 3MP and 5MP monochrome TFT displays; you can for instance find the RadiForce G31 here: http://radiforce.com/en/products/monitor.php?monitor_id=2[^]. But there are also other providers; I had the opportunity to test the 3MP Totoku[^] display, and it was really nice, apart from not being able to change the luminosity myself (it is a calibrated display). The only problem: the price. Since these displays are targeted at the medical market where quality and stability of the image are very important, you'll have to pay a very high price. And you'll need a special graphics card (Matrox has medical products for these displays). Hope this helps. Re: Nothing beats Monochrome ! trelliot27-Jan-05 22:37 trelliot 27-Jan-05 22:37  You should remember that the human eye can more readily distinguish colour (during daylight) than grey. This means that almost any colour scale will enhance a difference (note that it is a difference!) than grey scale. Looks like most peeps still on CRT Roddy6625-Jan-05 5:43 Roddy66 25-Jan-05 5:43  20% on CTR 19" I'v been trying to find a good replacement for my 2 19" CRTS but so far i havent take the plunge. I have LCD 15" on auxiliary pc's but not on my monster road. Rodrigo Samsung SyncMaster 213T Anders Dalvander24-Jan-05 21:12 Anders Dalvander 24-Jan-05 21:12  I got a new Samsung SyncMaster 213T a month ago and with it's 21.3" visible area at 1600x1200 it's a pleasure. The only thing bad is the update speed of 25ms, which is a bit high. Re: Samsung SyncMaster 213T Morten Slott26-Jan-05 23:21 Morten Slott 26-Jan-05 23:21  I've got the same monitor and every second with it is a joy! The response time of 25ms might seem a tad high on print but in everyday use, frankly I don't see any signs of blur or ghosting (playing HL2, Doom3, watching DVD's..) IMO the only letdown is that LCD's can't reproduce (and also 213T) the pitch black that CRT's do.. and the backlighting shines a little in a dark room... 18" Viewsonic VG800 Steve Mayfield24-Jan-05 12:56 Steve Mayfield 24-Jan-05 12:56  Very nice LCD Display includes intergrated speakers...we have several in the plant...some of the staff call them "the birds monitor" Steve 15.4" Wide-Aspect & 21" monitors Almighty Bob24-Jan-05 10:22 Almighty Bob 24-Jan-05 10:22  on my main setup here @ work thats the setup, the other setup is the 15.4 & a widescreen projector screen (unsure of the size but pretty big) dual 21" @ the home office. /bb|[^b]{2}/ Three 17" TFTs and a 19" CRT David Wulff24-Jan-05 9:52 David Wulff 24-Jan-05 9:52  Well it will be soon, for now it is two 17" TFTs and a 19" flat CRT: http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/three.jpg[^]. The two shelves on the side will be 'stacked up' so all four can be distributed evenly. I will keep the CRT because it took me months to get the colour calibrated correctly (something I have not managed on the LCD displays). When I jumped from a single display to dual displays I spent a week thinking "this is stupid, I'll never use all this space". I thought the same when I went from dual to triple displays. Actually it took me less than a week to find them invaluable the second time round because I already have Ultramon[^]. I will have to draw the line with quad displays though because I simply won't have the space, or the peripheral vision, for any more. If the past upgrades were good guides then my productivity will increase no end (I am 90% web developer - currently VS.NET + DW on 1, IE on 2, FF + Outlook on 3). Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum Audioscrobbler :: dwulff Everybody is entitled to my opinion Re: Three 17" TFTs and a 19" CRT Brandon Potter25-Jan-05 2:54 Brandon Potter 25-Jan-05 2:54  Do you ever have any problems constantly looking at a display that is at or above your head? I can't stand to have my monitor elevated -- I like to have it below my head or I go crazy... Re: Three 17" TFTs and a 19" CRT David Wulff25-Jan-05 3:05 David Wulff 25-Jan-05 3:05  I am actually the reverse of that, though I understand your way is quite common. At a previous job the monitors where sitting on the desk level with the keyboard, and I needed the monitor titlted right forward and then slouched back in my chair to not get neck strain after a days work. It is just more natural to me to have the middle of the displays centered on the middle of my vision so I can just look forward and keep my body straight. Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum Audioscrobbler :: dwulff Everybody is entitled to my opinion Re: Three 17" TFTs and a 19" CRT Paul M Watt25-Jan-05 23:43 Paul M Watt 25-Jan-05 23:43  you could always go for something like this: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=06-11942&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=4347&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx[^] or better yet, this: http://www.9xmedia.com/pages-Build_a_system/X-Top---5over5.html[^] Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life! Re: Three 17" TFTs and a 19" CRT David Wulff26-Jan-05 1:07 David Wulff 26-Jan-05 1:07  Paul Watt wrote: 9xmedia Wow! £70,000 for 10 x 40" HD-LCD screens doesn't seem that badly priced, but it is about £69,750 out of my price range. I'm not sure if I could use displays stacked vertically though - as mentioned above I have my displays mounted higher than most people so with two rows I would almost be looking up at the ceiling. Would be great for flight sims though. Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum Audioscrobbler :: dwulff Everybody is entitled to my opinion 19" LCD best choice pinkybear24-Jan-05 8:53 pinkybear 24-Jan-05 8:53  I am using samsung SM 193p and i am absolutely satisfied. 19" CRT for now Michael Dunn24-Jan-05 8:03 Michael Dunn 24-Jan-05 8:03  I've had dual monitors at work for a while and I really miss it at home (no surprise there). I was drooling over this widescreen LCD monitor[^] after seeing a MS guy blog about his[^]. If I ever get around to updating my home box I'm getting one of those. The once nice thing about a CRT is the heat it generates keeps my den nice and toasty warm during the winter. --Mike-- LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ | You Are Dumb Strange things are afoot at the U+004B U+20DD Dual Dell M992 19" CRT David Levitt (Myrddin)24-Jan-05 7:16 David Levitt (Myrddin) 24-Jan-05 7:16  Running this setup at work, while running a single LCD (19") at home....man I miss the dual setup at home, but lack of deskspace really prevents me from implementing it there.... Varies Grimolfr24-Jan-05 7:00 Grimolfr 24-Jan-05 7:00  At the office I have a 19" CRT At the home office I have a 21" CRT on the desktop, and a 15.4" widescreen LCD on the laptop. Honestly now, how many people at Codeproject really only have one computer that they work on regularly? Grim (aka Toby) MCDBA, MCSD, MCP+SB Need a Second Life?[^] SELECT * FROM user WHERE clue IS NOT NULL GO (0 row(s) affected) Two monitors WillemM24-Jan-05 7:00 WillemM 24-Jan-05 7:00  I use two 15" TFT screens. Works like a dream WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? Re: Two monitors Anonymous24-Jan-05 8:36 Anonymous 24-Jan-05 8:36  Also two, but this time: LCD 19" main display CRT 17" secondary (I didn't want to throw my old monitor away) Re: Two monitors Will Gray24-Jan-05 9:06 Will Gray 24-Jan-05 9:06  LCD 19" and CRT 17" I plan on having 2x LCD 19" by the end of the year. I have yet to even buy and LCD for home... Re: Two monitors Michael.Fischer25-Jan-05 8:57 Michael.Fischer 25-Jan-05 8:57  CRT 21" and CRT 21" .. big olde Nec FE2111sb's ... great .. just never try to moved the heavy sob's Re: Two monitors prcarp25-Jan-05 16:14 prcarp 25-Jan-05 16:14  Pair of Samsung 712N (17" LCD) although I probably should have gone for the 19" models. Two monitors are really helpful for debugging a GUI app: code one one side, app on the other. Feet (') and Inches(") Joshua Quick24-Jan-05 6:53 Joshua Quick 24-Jan-05 6:53  Good lord, a 17' (foot) monitor?!! I wish I had a primary display of that size. Would be great for watching DVDs. Re: Feet (') and Inches(") David Levitt (Myrddin)24-Jan-05 7:19 David Levitt (Myrddin) 24-Jan-05 7:19  LOL....I thought the same thing when I saw that...a 21 foot monitor? Re: Feet (') and Inches(") Michael Dunn24-Jan-05 7:58 Michael Dunn 24-Jan-05 7:58  mmmm, 17-foot monitor... *homerdrool* --Mike-- LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ | You Are Dumb Strange things are afoot at the U+004B U+20DD

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