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ThatsAlok wrote:
my home pc has 14" CRT
Don't feel bad, I was using a 13" CRT up till 2000. 
Everybody is entitled to my opinion
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No kidding. Those things sucked. AT home I do have a 15" LCD... not quite as bad... it was one of the first LCD's, but it was cheap becuase it was a display model. But it's still going strong, several years later... 
An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
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I use the HDTV for Half-life, etc. I like it.
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My Dream[^]
Ok, I do NOT have one of these, but if I had my choice, I'd replace my desk with this puppy ...
Oh yea.
:drool:
D.
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Is the glaring typo at their home page intentional (i.e. a pun)?
/ravi
My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536
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Take a good look at the pictures ... They are fake. If these monitors really existed don't you think they would use real pictures ?
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Huh, well, that's just a bunch of standard TFT displays attached together. What about a real high resolution display, such as an IBM T221[^]?
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Most of the links are 404, so I agree with the other poster saying that this must be a fake.
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That company went belly-up several months ago, after a short but vivid history of extravagant promises and very little fulfillment.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Damn-it man, you're destroying the dream ...
Yes, yes, I know the company's a falsehood, but I can dream can't I???
D.
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I am using a good old EIZO 6600-M (about 21", monochrome display, which is just very crisp with 1920x1440) and since about a month also a 22" Eizo TFT (monochrome too, 2048x1536).
I find that the standard 21"-22" TFT displays have pixels which are too large. The 30" Apple display is not better in this respect.
IBM sells a 22" TFT display (T221) which has a very high resolution (3840x2480) with 200dpi (ViewSonic and Iiyama also have the same hardware on their price list). That's something that I would be glad to test  and that might compete with my black and white displays.
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Frankly I cannot imagine anyone buying a monochrome display unless it is for reading X-rays or some other narrow specialty. Or if I was color blind.
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You have to experience it.
On a monochrome CRT, you don't have any visible grid. The display is really smooth and uncredibly sharp. And the high persistance of this kind of displays make their flicker barely perceptible, which is not the case with the "faster" color phosphorus.
I can work 10 hours with a black and white display and my eyes get much less tired than when I work with my 21" EIZO color display.
The monochrome TFT is very bright and there again, the grid is much less visible than on a RGB display. And you don't percieve this uncomfortable glitter effect produced by the RGB triples of standard TFT displays (you know, white is not really percieved as white, much more like snow glittering in the sun). But maybe I have too sharp eyes 
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Pierre Arnaud wrote:
you don't have any visible grid
If you see the grid on a colour display, you either sit too close to the screen, or you have too sharp eyes. I can only see the grid lines on my display, if my nose is less than 30cm away from it.
Pierre Arnaud wrote:
uncomfortable glitter effect produced by the RGB triples
Oh yes, the glittering was the first uncomfortable thing I noticed, when I changed from CRT to TFT. But it has a positive effect, too: You don't stare at the display for hours. The glitter effect forces you to look around in the room or out of the window after a few minutes. Moving your eyes now and again can't be bad, can it? 
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Corinna John wrote:
If you see the grid on a colour display, you either sit too close to the screen, or you have too sharp eyes. I can only see the grid lines on my display, if my nose is less than 30cm away from it.
Well, I am at about 80cm from my displays, and yet, the grid is painfully visible. You know the 3D postcards where you had to twist your eyes to see the 3D shape emerge from the noise? My eyes tend to have trouble focusing when the grid is visible, just as when watching these postcards.
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I agree.
I have a couple of workstations (designed for viewing mammograms) that I use that have 2 or more 2048x2560 grayscale displays. I have to agree that the text is much sharper but without color I do not spend a lot of time developing on them. I'd rather use my main desktop that has 2 19in monitors in 1152x864 resolution.
John
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I remember my old Atari-days: The ProScreen TT 19" was a perfect monitor, the image lying clear like a sheet of A4-paper in front of you!!!
Meanwhile I got comfortable with an Elsa 18"-TFT. But I still miss this 'paper-feeling'. However I doubt, that I could work without the benefits of color, which has overtaken an important role in information-presentation and signalling (e.g. syntax-coloring).
Questions:
1. What are your experiences? Are grayscales enough? Do you miss something?
2. I couldn't find that mono-TFT from Eizo in the net. Do you have a link or a more detailed spec. ?
Regards
Christof
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I am missing syntax coloring a bit, that's true, but you get used to the different grays. I have a multi-monitor setup with an old color CRT for the situations where color is really needed.
EIZO has a full line of 1MP, 2MP, 3MP and 5MP monochrome TFT displays; you can for instance find the RadiForce G31 here: http://radiforce.com/en/products/monitor.php?monitor_id=2[^]. But there are also other providers; I had the opportunity to test the 3MP Totoku[^] display, and it was really nice, apart from not being able to change the luminosity myself (it is a calibrated display).
The only problem: the price. Since these displays are targeted at the medical market where quality and stability of the image are very important, you'll have to pay a very high price. And you'll need a special graphics card (Matrox has medical products for these displays).
Hope this helps.
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You should remember that the human eye can more readily distinguish colour (during daylight) than grey. This means that almost any colour scale will enhance a difference (note that it is a difference!) than grey scale.
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20% on CTR 19"
I'v been trying to find a good replacement for my 2 19" CRTS but so far i havent take the plunge. I have LCD 15" on auxiliary pc's but not on my monster road.
Rodrigo
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I got a new Samsung SyncMaster 213T a month ago and with it's 21.3" visible area at 1600x1200 it's a pleasure. The only thing bad is the update speed of 25ms, which is a bit high.
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I've got the same monitor and every second with it is a joy! 
The response time of 25ms might seem a tad high on print but in everyday use, frankly I don't see any signs of blur or ghosting (playing HL2, Doom3, watching DVD's..)
IMO the only letdown is that LCD's can't reproduce (and also 213T) the pitch black that CRT's do.. and the backlighting shines a little in a dark room...
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Very nice LCD Display includes intergrated speakers...we have several in the plant...some of the staff call them "the birds monitor"
Steve
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on my main setup here @ work thats the setup, the other setup is the 15.4 & a widescreen projector screen (unsure of the size but pretty big)
dual 21" @ the home office.
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Well it will be soon, for now it is two 17" TFTs and a 19" flat CRT: http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/three.jpg[^]. The two shelves on the side will be 'stacked up' so all four can be distributed evenly. I will keep the CRT because it took me months to get the colour calibrated correctly (something I have not managed on the LCD displays).
When I jumped from a single display to dual displays I spent a week thinking "this is stupid, I'll never use all this space". I thought the same when I went from dual to triple displays. Actually it took me less than a week to find them invaluable the second time round because I already have Ultramon[^]. I will have to draw the line with quad displays though because I simply won't have the space, or the peripheral vision, for any more. If the past upgrades were good guides then my productivity will increase no end (I am 90% web developer - currently VS.NET + DW on 1, IE on 2, FF + Outlook on 3).
Everybody is entitled to my opinion
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