How can we understand what the data in the edifact file belongs to?

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I have converted any edi file to xml using this repository edifact-reader-github-repository[^]. For an instance see in the following xml file:

This is my un/edifact file:

UNB+UNOA:1+US::US+50138::THEM+140531:0305+001934++ORDERS'
UNH+1+ORDERS:91:2:UN'
BGM+220+A761902+4:20140530:102+9'
RFF+CT:EUA01349'
RFF+AAV::C'
TXT+THIS IS WHAT AN EDI MESSAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE... '
NAD+BY++OUR NAME PLC::::+++++EW4 34J'
CTA+PD'
COM+01752 253939:TE+01752 253939:FX+0:TL'
CTA+OC+:A.SURNAME'
COM+2407:EX'
CTA+TI+:B.BROWN'
COM+0:EX'
CTA+SU'
COM+0161 4297476:TE+01752 670633:FX'
UNT+15+1'
UNZ+1+001934'

and this is my xml file that converting by edifact file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<ediroot>
    <interchange Standard="EDIFACT" SyntaxId="UNOA" SyntaxVersion="1" Date="140531" Time="0305" Control="001934" ApplRef="ORDERS" Decimal=".">
        <sender>
            <address Id="US" Qual="" Extra="US"/>
        </sender>
        <receiver>
            <address Id="50138" Qual="" Extra="THEM"/>
        </receiver>
        <group>
            <transaction Control="1" DocType="ORDERS" Version="91" Release="2" Agency="UN">
                <segment Id="BGM">
                    <element Id="BGM01">220</element>
                    <element Id="BGM02">A761902</element>
                    <element Id="BGM03" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">4</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">20140530</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="3">102</subelement>
                    </element>
                    <element Id="BGM04">9</element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="RFF">
                    <element Id="RFF01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">CT</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">EUA01349</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="RFF">
                    <element Id="RFF01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">AAV</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="3">C</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="TXT">
                    <element Id="TXT01">THIS IS WHAT AN EDI MESSAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE... </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="NAD">
                    <element Id="NAD01">BY</element>
                    <element Id="NAD03" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">OUR NAME PLC</subelement>
                    </element>
                    <element Id="NAD08">EW4 34J</element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="CTA">
                    <element Id="CTA01">PD</element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="COM">
                    <element Id="COM01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">01752 253939</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">TE</subelement>
                    </element>
                    <element Id="COM02" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">01752 253939</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">FX</subelement>
                    </element>
                    <element Id="COM03" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">0</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">TL</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="CTA">
                    <element Id="CTA01">OC</element>
                    <element Id="CTA02" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="2">A.SURNAME</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="COM">
                    <element Id="COM01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">2407</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">EX</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="CTA">
                    <element Id="CTA01">TI</element>
                    <element Id="CTA02" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="2">B.BROWN</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="COM">
                    <element Id="COM01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">0</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">EX</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="CTA">
                    <element Id="CTA01">SU</element>
                </segment>
                <segment Id="COM">
                    <element Id="COM01" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">0161 4297476</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">TE</subelement>
                    </element>
                    <element Id="COM02" Composite="yes">
                        <subelement Sequence="1">01752 670633</subelement>
                        <subelement Sequence="2">FX</subelement>
                    </element>
                </segment>
            </transaction>
        </group>
    </interchange>
</ediroot>

What I have tried:

What I want to do right now is this.I want to do this by using a library that translates any xml-i java model classes to my classes. But here's the part I'm having trouble with. Which of the variables I will create in my model class will give the data in my edifact file. I mean, I don't know which of the texts in my edifact file store what value.

Posted 5-Mar-23 3:19am

vor_zakon_developer

Updated 5-Mar-23 4:45am

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OriginalGriff · Answer 1 · 2023-03-05T04:02:00

Solution 1

Try this: Convert XML to JAVA Object Online - Json2CSharp Toolkit[^]

Posted 5-Mar-23 4:02am

OriginalGriff

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vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 10:37am

you can't understood me. I mean, I want to know what the data which is also edi file means.For example, name, surname, which segment does it start with? Let me create my java classes accordingly.

Dave Kreskowiak · Answer 2 · 2023-03-05T04:45:00

Solution 2

How about you Google for "EDIFACT documentation" and start reading.

Posted 5-Mar-23 4:45am

Dave Kreskowiak

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vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 11:45am

sometime people always offer read documentation instead of solving a problem and I always seen such a people that I relaized that this people doesn't know anything about solving problem, that's why he/she reccomended documentation. and also edifact documentation doesn't help me it just said that this is our protocol etc. etc. seriosly what exactly relationship between documentation and my problem?

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 11:51am

I quote:
"How can we understand what the data in the edifact file belongs to?"

THAT'S WHAT THE DOCUMENTATION IS FOR!

Now, for creating your classes for you, how is any web service going to know what to create from a sample file you give it to use UNLESS THE SAMPLE FILES CONTAIN EVERY SINGLE OPTION FOR EVERY NODE TYPE AND ATTRIBUTE?

It can't. It can only create classes for what you give it. This is where the documentation comes in and YOU will have to modify the classes to account for the options the web service could never have known about.

THAT is why you cannot just throw a sample as a web service and expect it to return a completely useful class.

vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 12:23pm

Our un edifact message format is pnrgov it means that passenger and airlines data interchange how to know where is located passenger first name ? which segments contains its value? your documentation doesn't teach it unfortunately.

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 12:26pm

EDIFACT is the top of the document tree, NOT THE ENTIRE TREE.

Google for "edifact pnrgov documentation" and you'll find what you're looking for.

Stop being such an idiot and start thinking. Your project will thank you for it.

vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 12:30pm

May I know which version and message format of this edi file from our company? Can you tell me what types of messages are usually?I don't have much time to think because I don't know where to start since there is extra information in the documentation.

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 12:31pm

Nope. I can't do your thinking for you. I don't know anywhere near enough about your requirements to tell you anything useful. That's why YOU have to read the documentation. Nobody is going to be able to answer these question but YOU.

vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 12:34pm

and also bro, I now know that what is edi or un/ edifact etc. now I need to what does this un edifact format file contains values? how are the called? what is the segments of names this? how to determine what segments which data can contains etc. you know. please help me it very hardly understand.

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 12:37pm

I hate repeating myself.

Nope. I can't do your thinking for you. I don't know anywhere near enough about your requirements to tell you anything useful. That's why YOU have to read the documentation. Nobody is going to be able to answer these question but YOU.

If you can't understand this, how are you going to write the code to tell the machine how to understand it? You can't.

vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 12:39pm

ok but if I had been your way I pleasure help you we don't imporve ourselves like alone. once time I prepare this bulshit technology but never thinking like you.

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 12:59pm

You don't know me at all. I do this sh*t for a living and mostly on my own. I work with other people on the same projects, but I don't go begging them to do the parts I don't understand for me. I dig into the documentation to educate myself, benefiting the company and customers I work for.

Take a look at how many questions I've asked on this site in the last 20 years. ZERO. Because I do my own research and educate myself so I can write better code.

If you can't be bothered to do that, it's your customers who suffer because of it. If you're getting paid to work on this project, give them their money back.

vor_zakon_developer 5-Mar-23 13:24pm

Asking for something does not mean begging.If so then you've probably seen even top developers asking questions on stack overflow or this site. It's understood what type of software developer you are, I'm sure you don't even work in the industry and you don't even have a friend. I'm sorry, but not everyone has to live the life of a software developer as you say. :)

Dave Kreskowiak 5-Mar-23 13:39pm

You're begging me to explain a very large portion of your data to you. That's what the documentation is for.

I've been writing code for the last, what, 45 years now. I work for my best friend. We work on the same large project that runs all our team processes.

I have seen top people here asking the occasional question. The difference is they know how to ask questions, and the value of documentation, and you don't.

vor_zakon_developer 6-Mar-23 6:13am

documentation is just bulshit okay? I have never seen any person who praises the documentation.

Dave Kreskowiak 6-Mar-23 7:57am

Have a nice life. Bye.

vor_zakon_developer 6-Mar-23 8:05am

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