Re: UI Style - C / C++ / MFC Discussion Boards

Alberto Bencivenni5-Dec-04 23:34

5-Dec-04 23:34

Hello,

I am developing a new product and I often find myself asking if I should use this control or the other... Is the use of many DialogBox better of one single multipage one? Should I place a lot of comments inside Dialogs to help users to understand the meaning?

I know that it's all very subjective but does exist a definitive Windows UI Style Guide to give my product the best/modern look & feel? OMG | :OMG:

Thanks,

Alberto Bencivenni
devDept Development Team Leader
Topology Optimization | Finite Element Method | Cad/Cam | OpenGL | Programming

Re: UI Style

Sujan Christo6-Dec-04 1:15

Sujan Christo

6-Dec-04 1:15

Hi,
Have a look @ this link http://web-bloopers.com/gui-bloopers/[^]sometimes this may help you
Sujan

Re: UI Style

Alberto Bencivenni6-Dec-04 10:22

Alberto Bencivenni

6-Dec-04 10:22

I gave a look, but did't find any modern approach to UI design...

Did I miss something? Big Grin | :-D

Alberto Bencivenni
devDept Development Team Leader
Topology Optimization | Finite Element Method | Cad/Cam | OpenGL | Programming

Re: UI Style

David Crow6-Dec-04 2:38

David Crow

6-Dec-04 2:38

Alberto Bencivenni wrote:
...does exist a definitive Windows UI Style Guide to give my product the best/modern look & feel?

Have you seen this one?

"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

Re: UI Style

Alberto Bencivenni6-Dec-04 10:21

Alberto Bencivenni

6-Dec-04 10:21

Thanks David...

...but this guide does not contain suggestions, only explanations...

Nothing that suggest the best way connect with Windows users?

Maybe something more close to "usability tests"? Confused | :confused:

Cheers,

Alberto Bencivenni
devDept Development Team Leader
Topology Optimization | Finite Element Method | Cad/Cam | OpenGL | Programming

Re: UI Style

Peter Weyzen6-Dec-04 11:57

Peter Weyzen

6-Dec-04 11:57

There is no best way -- UI design is really an art.

My best recommendation to you, is just do your best. Then budget some time into your project for Usability/UI review.

Find a few people in your target market, ask em to use your product without any coaching or documentation -- see if they can figure it out. Video tape them doing that....

The adjust it and try again.

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Peter Weyzen<br />
Staff Engineer<br />
<A HREF="http://www.santacruznetworks.com">Santa Cruz Networks</A>

Re: UI Style

Alberto Bencivenni7-Dec-04 3:13

Alberto Bencivenni

7-Dec-04 3:13

Peter,

In general do you prefer SDI or MDI applications? I remember to read in the past that microsoft suggest SDI model because for the users is more easy to understand.

If only I could find that URL... It was something from microsoft... Cry | :((

Thanks,

Alberto Bencivenni
devDept Development Team Leader
Topology Optimization | Finite Element Method | Cad/Cam | OpenGL | Programming

Re: UI Style

Peter Weyzen7-Dec-04 6:49

Peter Weyzen

7-Dec-04 6:49

I prefer SDI.

Use MDI only if you have no other choice. There aren't that many MDI applications out there anymore. Excel and Visual Studio are good MDI applications, but in that sense MDI makes good sense.

Word is no longer MDI. Why? Because it doesn't make sense to edit unrelated documents in the same window....

For Excel, MDI makes a little more sense -- as does in Visual Studio.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
Peter Weyzen<br />
Staff Engineer<br />
<A HREF="http://www.santacruznetworks.com">Santa Cruz Networks</A>

Re: UI Style

David Crow7-Dec-04 2:36

David Crow

7-Dec-04 2:36

Alberto Bencivenni wrote:
...but this guide does not contain suggestions, only explanations...

Hmmm, it suggests that:

Buttons be 14x50 DLUs

4 DLUs be used to separate buttons and controls

Small toolbar buttons be 16x16 pixels

A group box be used to group related controls

Vertical fields should be aligned by their left edges

Command buttons should be aligned at the top right

Every file your program creates should have a registered file type

Copying files into the Windows folder or its System subfolder should be avoided

When you design for network access, support standard conventions such as UNC

Abbreviations be avoided unless the abbreviated form is as familiar to your users as the full word or phrase

One of two styles of capitalization be used: book title, or sentence-style

Numbers be aligned at the decimal point

Icons should be supplied in 16-color and 256-color versions

A pointer's hot spot location should be intuitive
...

A book you might consider is here.

"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

Positiong a dialog on another dialog.

ledallam5-Dec-04 23:02

ledallam

5-Dec-04 23:02

Hi

I have a CButton on a dialog. On click of the button, I want to create another dialog and poisition it just below the CButton. I tried using GetWindowPlacement on click of button on the first dialog and SetWindowPlacement in OnInitDialog function of the second dialog, but I am not able to position the second dialog correctly. Can anyone please help me to do this.

Thanks
Madhavi.

Re: Positiong a dialog on another dialog.

toxcct5-Dec-04 23:20

toxcct

5-Dec-04 23:20

SetWindowPos() may be better.

moreover, use a CRect to get the position of you button like this (thanks to Chris Maunder for his Unclickable button[^]) :

CWnd* pParent = GetParent();
<font color=#0000FF>if</font> (!pParent) pParent = GetDesktopWindow();
<font color=#008000>//...</font>
CRect ButtonRect;                         <font color=#008000>// Button Dimensions (Parent coords)</font>
GetWindowRect(ButtonRect);
pParent->ScreenToClient(ButtonRect);
CPoint Center = ButtonRect.CenterPoint(); <font color=#008000>// Center of button (parent coords)</font>

TOXCCT >>> GEII power
[toxcct][VisualCalc]

I am Looking for signed key Sample

ThatsAlok5-Dec-04 23:01

ThatsAlok

5-Dec-04 23:01

Hi Cpians,
In one of my project, I need signed Key Algo. As crypto always go miles over my head. So if any provide me nice pointer or source code.

Let me explain looking for this type of thing. Using user name (any name) I generate the Key, that key I verify in the component with Public key. If it is ok, I will allow user to use my Component.

Here only I looking for some algorithm where I can put private Key & Username and in return it give me User Key, Public key.

Any Help is Greatly Appreciated

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"I Think this Will Help"
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Alok Gupta
visit me at http://www.thisisalok.tk

No reaction on my application button

max_gundam155-Dec-04 22:36

max_gundam15

5-Dec-04 22:36

Currently I have a call back function that will send info from the library to the application throughout a certain period of time. The problem I've encountered is that there is no reaction on the button that is base on the application. Confused | :confused:

On Visual C++ 6.0, how to I identify a user who is having what kind of privileges? (i.e admin privilege, etc)

Re: No reaction on my application button

ThatsAlok5-Dec-04 22:44

ThatsAlok

5-Dec-04 22:44

max_gundam15 wrote:
On Visual C++ 6.0, how to I identify a user who is having what kind of privileges? (i.e admin privilege, etc)

this api will help you NetUserEnum

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"I Think this Will Help"
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Alok Gupta
visit me at http://www.thisisalok.tk

Link error...

sajpt5-Dec-04 21:30

sajpt

5-Dec-04 21:30

Hi All,

I have an function exported from a dll:
HRESULT FuncName(LPWSTR *, LPSTR * *, ULONG);

When I link to this function from the client program, it gives link error(Unresolved externals.

When I change the first Parameter of the function to LPSTR* instead of LPWSTR*, it works fine.
Why LPWSTR is not working? Any idea how to solve the issue.
I am using VS.Net 2003 and porting some VS6 projects to VS.Net.
Both these dll and client are working perfectly fine in vc6

Thanks...

Re: Link error...

sajpt5-Dec-04 22:50

sajpt

5-Dec-04 22:50

help please...

How to format a data drive automatically?

Crystal Lin5-Dec-04 21:22

Crystal Lin

5-Dec-04 21:22

How to format a data drive automatically? (without user action!)

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

toxcct5-Dec-04 21:41

toxcct

5-Dec-04 21:41

system("format C:");

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[toxcct][VisualCalc]

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

David Crow6-Dec-04 2:42

David Crow

6-Dec-04 2:42

Which would still require user interaction.

"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

toxcct6-Dec-04 21:00

toxcct

6-Dec-04 21:00

better to suggest ??

DavidCrow wrote:
Which would still require user interaction.

just set the right parameters for the format program...

TOXCCT >>> GEII power
[toxcct][VisualCalc]

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

David Crow7-Dec-04 3:09

David Crow

7-Dec-04 3:09

toxcct wrote:
just set the right parameters for the format program...

Format.com has no parameters that suppress the prompts. The only way to accomplish this is to plug the keyboard buffer prior to running the format program. I would never suggest using system() Dead | X|

but since the OP has expressed interest in it, it could be modified such as:

system("echo.|format a:");

"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

Matt U.6-Dec-04 13:53

Matt U.

6-Dec-04 13:53

<<**--..__..--**>>
system("format C:");
system("y");
<<**--..__..--**>> Big Grin | :-D

Re: How to format a data drive automatically?

Crystal Lin6-Dec-04 14:25

Crystal Lin

6-Dec-04 14:25

Then, how to hide the cmd window?

Color image print

lisoft5-Dec-04 20:57

lisoft

5-Dec-04 20:57

Hello all:
I want to print color images to a monochrome printer device, How should I do with the CDC class to let the image accommodate to the printer?

Lisoft

How to show the hint text in a dialog?

ytod5-Dec-04 20:20

ytod

5-Dec-04 20:20

Hi, everyone:
I had a problem about how to show the hint text in a dialog just like what would happen when you move your mouse close to the button of a toolbar and wait for a moment. If the user put his/her mouse on a button for a moment, the hint text would show like that in the toolbar. Can somebody tell me what to do? Thanks!

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