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I always thought it was ridiculous when it was first introduced, but now after watching it's effects for some years I can see it's also divisive and pointless.
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Of course the voting useless for most forums, but many users love it.
In the programming forums it is not used very often, it does not matter if it stays or not.
In soapbox and lounge, votes of 5 or 1 are used as an abbreviation of "i agree, no further comment" or "i disagree and don't want to show my name because I don't have good arguments".
And here in the suggestions forum, you can see from a message's score, that the majority of readers find a suggestion a good/bad idea.
You're right, the voting system is pointless... but why not let the people vote, if they feel it's funny? 
I'd rather get rid of the voting system for articles. It causes "ranking wars", and I think many good articles get voted down because somebody hates the author.
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Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion
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Corinna John wrote:
In the programming forums it is not used very often, it does not matter if it stays or not
Actually, I'd like people fiving a reply that was helpful. Makes it easier to spot the "actual solution".
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist | doxygen
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True, but also sometimes I've noticed people fiving a question. I don't know why, maybe they have the same problem. Maybe the author sets up a second account and uses it to highlight the questions I don't know - but without further comments I can't tell (just to state the blindingly obvious)
Do you want to know more?
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I can only imagine it's because of the last line about the site being painfully slow. Fact is that it *is* painfully slow, not all the time but consistently and this was supposed to be addressed many times over the years but never seems to get finally and for all time fixed.
I've done my part, I bought MSDN universal through C.P. and will buy my renewals through them.
When is this going to get fixed? If there is a hypothetical list of fixes to be done, surely this is at the top?
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John Cardinal wrote:
finally and for all time fixed.
The only way performance will be finally and for all time fixed is if we can get to the point where hardware and system upgrades keep pace with the number of people using this site. Please also know that we are updating systems, adding new hardware and optimising the network continually. But we're also growing.
In the last month we've bought on a new developer, an operations guy, have advertised for a SysAdmin (and will be interviewing soon) and are looking to hire 2 more staff. Part of the mix is to allow us to expand and generate enough revenue to cover further server upgrades, and part is to move forward with current planned upgrades.
It's happening, but we're time and resource constrained so it isn't happening as fast as anyone would like, least of all us.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Hi Chris!
The only way performance will be finally and for all time fixed is if we can get to the point where hardware and system upgrades keep pace with the number of people using this site.
Well, maybe you could offer more options to support CP. I mean, I'm not responsible for purchasing at work and since I'm entitled to buy the Visual Studio Academic Edition I'm not going to buy my VS for personal use at CP (sorry about that  . Now, I don't know how many members buy the CodeProject Supporter Status for 240 USD. I would be willing to pay for some kind of sponsor membership but 20 USD per month is too much. Personally I wouldn't pay more than 10 USD per month (unless you would increase the added value). Also I would more likely pay a small fee per month rather than a big fee per year (I know there is no real difference... sometimes I'm just illogical ).
Best regards
Dennis
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Dennis C. Dietrich wrote:
Well, maybe you could offer more options to support CP.
This is exactly what we are looking at, but CodeProject should remain free.
We need to ensure that options we look at are things we can guarantee. Uptime, speed, network congestion, outages etc are all things that we can guarantee given sufficient resources. But what if there are missing files from unedited contributions we haven't processed yet? Or comments from other members that a particular member disagrees with? Or the orange is just that wrong shade of orange? That $20 unintentionally gives the subscriber some serious customer service problems that will take resources away from growing and building.
We get enough angry email from developers telling us we need to send them code or solve their particular problem. We really don't want to open up the floodgates. And unfortunately in this case the lazy/belligerent few will definitely make it painful for the well-behaved many.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
This is exactly what we are looking at, but CodeProject should remain free.
I agree.
That $20 unintentionally gives the subscriber some serious customer service problems that will take resources away from growing and building.
You're right, I didn't think about that. Maybe you can make some money with ungodly priced fan articles (like everybody else does). I voted for the Little Green Alien plush toys and would really like to have one (I just hope you won't get angry mails from customers who've been abducted by little green aliens). Anyway, I'm looking forward to whatever you guys come up with. 
Best regards
Dennis
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see more here
http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?msg=970272&forumid=1640&XtraIDs=1649&searchkw=colin+mcadam&sd=11%2F10%2F2004&ed=11%2F11%2F2004#xx970272xx
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clickety[^]
In case u have FireFox try CP toolbar
To say something about XML vs binary serialization, I think that strong typing in XML is quite an advantage - u can validate data (object) BEFORE trying to deserialize them... I am big fan of XML nearly everywhere, bt unfortunately I will not have time to study this & write article
best regards,
David 'DNH' Nohejl
Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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Chris,
I notice the Web Services feed link on "http://www.codeproject.com/info/stuff.asp" page seems to be broken. Are the Code Project Web Services still going ?
Tks
Pete
Peter Hayward
Ngarkat Technologies
Dulwich, South Australia,
Australia
61 8 8364 7060
phayward@bigfoot.com
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Yes it is. I forgot to put up the scaffolding and construction detour signs.
Back soon.
[Update: all fixed]
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Every so often (seems to be when it takes ages) an attempt to post a comment ends up with a save file dialog popping up:
Some files can harm your computer. If the file information below
looks suspicious, or you do not fully trust the source, do not open or
save this file.
File name: user_do_reply.asp
File type: Active Server Page
from: www.codeproject.com
[!] This type of file could harm your computer if it contains
malicious code.
Would you like to open the file or save it to your computer?
[ Open ] [ Save ] [ Cancel ] [ More Info ]
Open just tries to edit the file in Visual Studio
(Most of the time, posting messages works ok, albeit a little slow)
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Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!
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That's weird.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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If you made the "Search" text next to the search box that appears at the top of every page into a link to http://www.codeproject.com/info/search.asp[^] then it'd let people open up a search in a new window without loosing the current page they're viewing (handy if you're replying to a forum post and want to check what articles are out there)
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Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!
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Yeah, this is often a small frustration for me as well. Alternately, just make the "Go" button a link.
"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things..."
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When you check the "Do not treat <'s as HTML tags" option in the message editor, all HTML tags in your signature get displayed as non-HTML, even though signatures often have links that need to be treated as HTML tags. It would be nice if the tag option only affected the message text and not the signature associated with it.
"For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog
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In the setting's page, the signature box would need it's own checkbox on whether to treat <> as tags or text.
"For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you would never have considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." - Q (Star Trek: The Next Generation) ^ Blog
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I was just thinking it would be cool to have the soapbox listed under the lounge on the main page...
Just a thought, and I think it would solve some of the soapbox type threads that go on in the lounge.
Richard
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I don't think most visitors would want to go near the SoapBox, the typical thread in there is not something CodeProject would want to advertise.
Everybody is entitled to my opinion
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All fixed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Hi,
i thing it would be great if the options on the search page could be stored in a cookie or the user profile. every time i search i have to uncheck the "MFC / C++" and "ASP.NET" options, that's quite annoying.
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