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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
or to find programmers who are willing to cope with changes in requirements.
Who will perpetually chase these requirements and go over budget and over-time. But oh yes it is an IT project so that is just normal...
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
or to find programmers who are willing to cope with changes in requirements
Good thing I am a very easy going person and fit very well into this category...
John
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<<if the="" customer="" changes="" their="" mind="" then="" it="" is="" a="" change="" request="" that="" will="" come="" at="" cost.="">>
Ah, if only it were so easy. And I *totally* agree with you! However, you'd find yourself hard pressed for customers if you pulled that stunt too many times. Why? Because there are companies out there that will take a loss to gain business - therefore, so must your company - lest word of mouth eventually drive your customer base away toward your competiters. It sucks but that's what happens often enough.
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Yes you are correct, but this is called managing the customer and most importantly their expectations.
It only takes one alternative competitor who cannot 'deliver' to wake them up realizing that although you lay down hard rules, you will deliver on your promises.
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True, enough! 
Let's hope my company's management learns this.
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I voted for #2, but prioritizing a list of requirements is hardly sufficient groundwork for a design, if I want to get more than a few hours into design before needing to re-assess what the hell we're trying to do. A "list" is just my first stage of requirements gathering. Then come wire diagrams and use cases (depending on the project), and iterations on versions of those simple docs, involving meetings and emails and cubicle visits. I think this is what smart people call requirements analysis, I'm not sure. But I do know it is amazing when you write out the details of "obvious" requirements (like how the login page should work) and suddenly big issues pop up -- usually from those people who originally thought the whole project was simple and obvious. I like it when this happens, especially if I haven't even opened Visual Studio yet.
Brad Williams
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it should have been "Get requirements, design, code, repeat as necessary"
Of course, the processes has to be re-iterative. There's no way you can forsee everything. Some issues only occur when you start implementing, although there shouldn't be too many big changes
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... it is necessary to start a new project. Sometimes problems can be solved without starting a new project and battles can be won without actually fighting the enemy. 
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...you can tell the customers to look for another company. Thats the best way to get rid of projects... 
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and a whole lot of ££££
I am that is
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Hey Norm, how are you. I've been looking for a calendar control for like 2 weeks now and I finally came across yours. My problem is that i dont know c/c++ so i dont understand the code. I was wondering if you could email me the already compiled ocx/dll control..? If it's possible, please do so to diegohb14@hotmail.com. I appreciate your time and help.
Diego
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Have you seen the price of eggs lately?
i.e. Some of us do projects for a living where the client is not the enemy but actually the people who buy our eggs.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
South Africa
Christopher Duncan quoted:
"...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives"
Crikey! ain't life grand?
Einstein says...
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Paul Watson wrote:
Have you seen the price of eggs lately?
Einstein says the price of egg equals the number of consultants it takes to lay the egg times the number of new egg projects.
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Anonymously wrote:
Sometimes problems can be solved without starting a new project and battles can be won without actually fighting the enemy.
That's all well and good if you are part of an inhouse development team, but for those of us who make our living from providing software solutions to problems a new project is a good thing.
Michael
But you know when the truth is told,
That you can get what you want or you can just get old,
Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through.
When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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Michael P Butler wrote:
... you are part of an inhouse development team ...
How do you know?
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