new and delete, why does this work? - C / C++ / MFC Discussion Boards

Mike Burston15-Oct-01 12:38

15-Oct-01 12:38

No, I have no idea of the relative efficiencies of MFC versus STL containers - I have been using STL heavily for the past 3 years, and prior to that I used a library of custom built containers. I have never used MFC containers. I would expect STL to be similar to MFC in performance, but I do know that there have been examples of STL running much slower than MFC in specific instances. I believe this is due mainly to the fact tht MFC was designed in the early ninties, when PCs were NOT equiped 1gig CPUs, and therefore a fair amount of effort went into building a libraray that had reasonable performance. STL, on the other hand, is designed for portability and flexibility (via extension), and the entire container/iterator/algorithm framework has at least some inherent overhead. I have never found STL to be a 'choke-point' in my code, however.

Your quickest answer is probably to code up a simple test - build a small MFC exe that has a std::map and a CMap, then try filling, sorting, searching, removing. put it all into a loop, run it 10000 times, see how long it takes.

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Re: STL - compile warning

User 988515-Oct-01 12:45

User 9885

15-Oct-01 12:45

Yes .. I will be doing that. I was getting some peer opinion/experiences also. I did not want to find out something late in the development stage.
Thanks for the info. I will post the results of my test.

Thomas

modified 29-Aug-18 21:01pm.

CStatic problem

15-Oct-01 10:28

I want my CStatic behind all other buttons, edit controls etc.
It's a bitmap static and how to do that!??

// DeRGTT

Re: CStatic problem

Christian Graus15-Oct-01 10:30

Christian Graus

15-Oct-01 10:30

Don't use a static - draw the bitmap onto the background instead.

Christian

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Re: CStatic problem

15-Oct-01 10:40

Ok... how to do that then! Smile | :)

Re: CStatic problem

J Patel15-Oct-01 11:06

J Patel

15-Oct-01 11:06

Check out http://www.endurasoft.com/techtalk/dlgbkgnd.htm

There is another class on codeguru as well.

HTH

Jignesh

Re: CStatic problem

Michael Dunn15-Oct-01 12:34

Michael Dunn

15-Oct-01 12:34

Your question is answered in the VC forum FAQ.

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new and delete, why does this work?

Sam C15-Oct-01 10:22

Sam C

15-Oct-01 10:22

Hi,

Going over some code in a multithreaded library I came across a snippet that bewilers me, and I was hoping one of you can make sense of it for me. It is part of a multi-threaded application. First there a global structure declared.

struct CustomStruct
{
  CWnd* pCwnd;
  int* pInt;
  long* plong;
}

These are the same declarations but I can't recall them. But they are all pointers to some value. Then in one member function part of a class there is this call.

...
CustomStruct* pCS=new CustomStruct;

pCS->pCwnd=AfxGetMainWnd();
pCS->Int=&IntVariable;
pCS->plong=&LongVariable;

CreateThread(...(Pass the above struct address as LPVOID)

And in the static function for the thread we have

CustomStruct* pCS=(CustomStruct*)wParam;
CWnd* pCwnd=pCS->pCwnd;
int* pInt=pCS->pInt;
long* plong=pCS->plong;

delete pCS;

How does the delete portion of the code work? I don't understand how we can delete the structure here and still have access to the new pointers we declared in the function? How can we delete the structure and still have the data stored in the pointer still be valid? Did we not get rid of that data with delete? I'm confused please explain.

Thanks in Advance.

Sam C
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Systems Manager
Hospitality Marketing Associates

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Tim Smith15-Oct-01 10:27

Tim Smith

15-Oct-01 10:27

As you noticed, the temporary structure just contains a window handle and pointers to other variables. Once these values are copied from the structure, it can be deleted.

The original variables that the pointers referenced still exist.

Tim Smith
Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Sam C15-Oct-01 11:54

Sam C

15-Oct-01 11:54

Thanks. I get it now, but what if we change the pointers to be straight variables. For example, remove the CWnd* and change the other to to long and int (instead of long* and int*) then by deleting the structure this time we remove those variables from memory? And the above example I gave will no longer be valid?

Thanks for helping out I didn't have pointer problems or memory allocation problems using VB Smile | :)

Sam C
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Systems Manager
Hospitality Marketing Associates

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Tomasz Sowinski15-Oct-01 10:28

Tomasz Sowinski

15-Oct-01 10:28

Think about CustomStruct as a disposable paper bag. Inside there are three things: a pointer to CWnd, a pointer to int, and a pointer to long. You take these things out of the bag, and get rid of the bag.

'delete' destroys only a memory block that holds three pointers. These three pointers remain perfectly valid.

Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Sam C15-Oct-01 11:52

Sam C

15-Oct-01 11:52

Thanks for some reason I was thinking it "destroyed" everything. So only the pointers are deleted but not the actual value stored in memory. So if these weren't pointers then we would have a "memory" leak problem? Say for instance we remove the CWnd, but keep int and long we call delete would those values be removed from memory?

Sam C
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Systems Manager
Hospitality Marketing Associates

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Mike Burston15-Oct-01 12:29

Mike Burston

15-Oct-01 12:29

You're almost there!

Yes, when 'delete' is called on the struct/class, the members are destroyed. If those members are pointers, then the pointer is destroyed, but not what is pointed to. If you have no other pointer to the 'pointed to' object, then you have a memory leak (remember - you can have multiple pointers pointing to the same memory address/object).

If you want the things that are 'pointed to' to be destroyed when you call 'delete', you write a destructor that does this. As a general rule (there are always exceptions, and the code you are looking at is one of those exceptions)
if a class/struct contains pointers, it should also have a destructor that 'cleans up' the pointed to objects. And a copy constructor and an assignment operator - but that's getting a little too complicated for now!

So far, so good (I hope).

If the members are just 'builtin types' like int, then when delete is called the int is destroyed. However, in your code you copied the int value from the struct just before calling delete. Therefore, the 'int' in the struct is removed from memory by the call to delete, but the copy you made still remains valid, becuase it is a different copy of the int value from the struct. Er... I think that's what I'm trying to say!

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Re: new and delete, why does this work?

PJ Arends15-Oct-01 13:07

PJ Arends

15-Oct-01 13:07

I think the easy way to get your head around pointers is to think of them as addresses. the RAM (memory) is a street, and every house on that street has an address (a pointer). If you want to tell your friend to go to a certain house, you write the address on a piece of paper, and you give him the paper (you have just passed a pointer, in a customstruct(on paper)), then he goes out and meets another friend, who also wants the addresses that he writes in his notebook (gets a copy of the pointer). Now your friend decides he doesn't need the address any more so he throws away the paper (deletes the custom struct, but the memory(house) still exists). As long as the house exists the address is valid, but if the house burns down (your object is deleted from memory) the address will point to an empty lot (invalid memory).
I hope this helps, this analogy helped me understand pointers Smile | :)

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Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Sam C15-Oct-01 13:46

Sam C

15-Oct-01 13:46

Actually this is a very good analogy!!! I GET IT (somewhat) NOW! Thanks for that analogy I really appreciate it.

Sam C
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Systems Manager
Hospitality Marketing Associates

Re: new and delete, why does this work?

Sam C15-Oct-01 13:48

Sam C

15-Oct-01 13:48

Just wanted to give everyone a blanket THANKS. I finally am getting a good grasp of everything that is being said about pointers. I thought I had a good grasp before, but that creating a structure and then deleting it in another function kind of killed me Smile | :)

But thanks to all for being patient and taking the time to help me understand this one concept better.

Sam C
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Systems Manager
Hospitality Marketing Associates

ATL

mimi15-Oct-01 9:13

mimi

15-Oct-01 9:13

I created by Wizard ATL COM DLL that import my MFC extention DLL(from type: base Dialog) in my ATL.

Please check my steps (describes below) and tell me if I miss something.
(because when I try to perform its function from client program it become crazy)
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1. I opened project: ATL COM Wizard. [DLL] [MFC Support]
2. I inserted to the library that created the file : MyMfcDll.dll
and attached to the ATL project the files : MyMfcDll.h , MyMfcDll.lib
3. I Added by wizard ATL class [MyClass] [single] [dual]
4. I added by wizard method [ShowMfcDialog] to IMyClass and fill it so :
___________________________________________
#include "MyMfcDll.h"

STDMETHODIMP CMyClass::ShowMfcDialog()
{
AFX_MANAGE_STATE(AfxGetStaticModuleState())

CMyDialog dlg; //from the imported dll
dlg.DoModal();

return S_OK;
}
______________________________________________
5. I registered the dll (regsvr32)
and that's all !

What is missing ?

I will be greatful if you will help me ! PLEASE !!!!!

CArray "How to"

RobJones15-Oct-01 7:23

RobJones

15-Oct-01 7:23

I'm trying to find a good article on how to use the CArray. I have never used CArray and would like to learn about it and implement it. Any one have a link to a good "How to" use CArrays?

Thanks,

Rob

Re: CArray "How to"

Carlos Antollini15-Oct-01 7:38

Carlos Antollini

15-Oct-01 7:38

Rob, CArray is like CList, but the principal diferens is that In CArray you Use Index and not Position like in CList, For me is more easy work with CArray.

If you need help, I'm here
Cheers;)

Carlos Antollini.

Re: CArray "How to"

RobJones15-Oct-01 7:55

RobJones

15-Oct-01 7:55

Thanks Carlos!

I have a app that uses a List control.. I get and send WM_COPYDATA messages to and from other apps. At that point I validate if that item is or is not all ready in the list control if it is I don't add it and if it's not I add it.. I then can minimize, maximize, close or do a ton of other functions using the list control..

After implementing all these different functions in the list I am starting to find that everything is getting super complicated in keeping track of whats in the list, what should be added or removed and what fields to change if something needs to be changed or updated..(I need to do validation on every cell and update needed cells with-out adding another entry) I have other people suggesting that I should use an array to keep track of everything and use the list to just view the data..

I have never used the CArray and don't even know if it's what I should use in my situation.. Any suggestions?

Rob

Re: CArray "How to"

Carlos Antollini15-Oct-01 8:22

Carlos Antollini

15-Oct-01 8:22

I agree with You.
I will give you a simple help.

For example:
The constructor of CArray is:
CArray<TYPE, TYPE>
Never forgot #include <afxtempl.h>

You can define
CArray<int,int> ptArray;
Or
CArray<MyClass, MyClass> ptArray;

ptArray.Add(20); //Add 20 as element 0
ptArray.Add(15); //Add 15 as element 1 in the array

ptArray.InsertAt(0, 23)); // New element 0

int num = ptArray.GetAt(1); //returns the element 1

int nSize = trArray.GetSize(); //returns the number of elements in the array.

you can append a array to another array

for example.
CArray<int, int> oArray;

oArray.Append(ptArray);

with removeAll you can delete all elements in the array.

ptArray.RemoveAll();

with RemoveAt() you can remove n elements in the array.

RemoveAt(nIndex, num)
ptArray.RemoveAt(1, 2); //remove starting from the element 1, two elements.

You Understand????

Best Regards Wink | ;)

Carlos Antollini. Green Alien | [Alien]

Re: CArray "How to"

Carlos Antollini15-Oct-01 8:40

Carlos Antollini

15-Oct-01 8:40

Carlos Antollini. Green Alien | [Alien]

Carlos Antollini.

Re: CArray "How to"

RobJones15-Oct-01 9:20

RobJones

15-Oct-01 9:20

Yes I understand. Thanks! It looks alot like a list control. I'll play around with it.

Thanks for all your help!

Rob

Re: CArray "How to"

Christian Graus15-Oct-01 10:29

Christian Graus

15-Oct-01 10:29

I take it you've had CArray explained to you sufficiently, I'll only add that it is better to use vector from the STL for a myriad of reasons.

Christian

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Re: CArray "How to"

RobJones15-Oct-01 11:15

RobJones

15-Oct-01 11:15

Thanks Christian,
I looked into using stl vector a few weeks back, but it looks to be much more complicated to use.. at least for what I am trying to do. I think I'll stick with the CList in this project but I am defiantly going to study up on both the CArrays and STL Vectors so I can use either in a future project..

Thanks again! Smile | :)

Rob

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