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too many people fuckstick23-Oct-03 21:07 fuckstick 23-Oct-03 21:07  I think that computers are a discrace to the human race. I think that we all would be happier without them and we all would have more time on our hands for music and dancing. I am 93 and can tell you not much has changed in my time. Sure the grass has grown but did you have to mow it. You are all as bad as each other. And you, with that evil look wrapped to your skull - I hope you die soon too many people Re: too many people Shog924-Oct-03 8:27 Shog9 24-Oct-03 8:27  This is disturbing. Dancing is evil - computers are all that stand between us and this madness. Pound this subversive. Your sincerity about keeping the soapbox organized and civilized is so obvious. I solute your effort. -- Anonymous, 10/18/03 People Skills Michael A. Barnhart23-Oct-03 4:39 Michael A. Barnhart 23-Oct-03 4:39  OK, I find I disagree with some of the grouping here. Management and people skills are two very seperate capabilities/traits and I would not group them. ALthough you would like your manager to have people skills, you can have a very good manager that does not. The basic people skill is really negotiation (with back stabbing being one implementation of the skill set.) So my observation is this just shows why most programmers tend to create appliations in silos vs being part of a team that produces quality services and why so many arround me have no clue to what a service oriented architure is vs an appliation that allows collaboration. No degrading is inteneded just my observation (mostly of those around me on a day to day basis.) "For as long as I can remember, I have had memories. Colin Mochrie." Re: People Skills MarkC#23-Oct-03 5:09 MarkC# 23-Oct-03 5:09  Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Management and people skills are two very seperate capabilities/traits and I would not group them. ALthough you would like your manager to have people skills, you can have a very good manager that does not. True dat! Besides, people skills are important in all jobs, as are management skills, if you are on that career track. The options should be limited to technical skills... even though "programming" can encompass many of the other options. Although I respect this poll (and the creator ), I think it could have been posed better. Regards, MarkC# --------- .Net Head C'mon Now... :) MarkC#23-Oct-03 1:22 MarkC# 23-Oct-03 1:22  Did the creator of this poll really think that the leading response would be anything other than programming? This is The Code Project, right? MarkC# --------- .Net Head Re: C'mon Now... :) Jon Newman23-Oct-03 10:51 Jon Newman 23-Oct-03 10:51  Well, there *is* a VB section.... *ducks to avoid projectiles* Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Blog [^] Re: C'mon Now... :) FruitBatInShades24-Oct-03 3:13 FruitBatInShades 24-Oct-03 3:13  Throws time slowing bomb, so you can finish your projects at the same time as us VB coders Re: C'mon Now... :) Jon Newman24-Oct-03 4:14 Jon Newman 24-Oct-03 4:14  "time slowing bomb" Don't you mean "Time Stopping" ? Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Blog [^] Re: C'mon Now... :) Christian Graus26-Oct-03 15:37 Christian Graus 26-Oct-03 15:37  I didn't realise that time to finish was more important than having a project that works, and code that is easy to maintain ? Besides, we charge by the hour, so how do we lose out if we get the job coding in a language that takes longer ? (I'm ignoring the fact that VB being quicker is a pile of crap) Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder I depends on there mind set. John R. Shaw21-Oct-03 18:46 John R. Shaw 21-Oct-03 18:46  It depends on the indiviuals mind set. If you have managerial skill and are more concerned about the money than the concepts then you need to go into Administartion. Programmng can be a thankless job. In the long run the best Administartors are those who have been ther and done that, and are tied of doing it. In orther words I know what needs to be done, I known how to do it, but given a choose I'd rather tell someone what needs to be done and let them do all the (bloody) typing. INTP for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe21-Oct-03 4:45 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 21-Oct-03 4:45  I haven't thrown a dagger in ages. I could use the practice... Just listen for the screams... Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Gary Wheeler21-Oct-03 6:29 Gary Wheeler 21-Oct-03 6:29  Oh gawd! BTW1: Aren't you presuming a wee bit about the gender of the submitters? Last time I looked, 'sex' applied to both (or is it 'all' nowadays?) genders, and I have a female coworker who womanizes regularly (she's single at the moment, and on the prowl). BTW2: I realize you have a novel perspective here . Software Zen: delete this; Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... tonySG21-Oct-03 7:24 tonySG 21-Oct-03 7:24  You are right I have seen it all in corporate culture. Remember, who knows what the bosses sexual preferences may be? Man or woman, it doesn't matter anymore. I could tell you stories... Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe21-Oct-03 9:01 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 21-Oct-03 9:01  True enough - I based my comment on my own experience though! I've lost count of the number of guys who've tried to pick me up for sex through (unsolicited) Yahoo IM messages. Not one girl has done that - even though my profile clearly states that my preference is for a female partner at the moment (the guys seem to manage to miss that bit... ) There are female predators out there of course - but they're well and truly outnumbered by the guys - and some of those guys are pretty scary characters, believe me. Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Roger Wright22-Oct-03 6:35 Roger Wright 22-Oct-03 6:35  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: There are female predators out there of course Dang!!! Where are they when you really need them??? "Your village called - They're missing their idiot." Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe22-Oct-03 7:28 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 22-Oct-03 7:28  Try the WayOut club in London. Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... peterchen22-Oct-03 22:49 peterchen 22-Oct-03 22:49  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Not one girl has done that They are used to sit-and-let-them-come tactics Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: my preference is for a female partner at the moment You know how guys are.. A "maybe" is enough Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: There are female predators out there of course And they are much more cunning, thus, their true number is hard to know. "Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel." sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe23-Oct-03 4:56 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 23-Oct-03 4:56  peterchen wrote: They are used to sit-and-let-them-come tactics It works for me. peterchen wrote: You know how guys are.. A "maybe" is enough Actually, a "feck off" is more than enough for a sizeable minority... peterchen wrote: And they are much more cunning, thus, their true number is hard to know. 69^n? Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... peterchen23-Oct-03 8:02 peterchen 23-Oct-03 8:02  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: 69^n? You beast! "Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel." sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe23-Oct-03 9:02 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 23-Oct-03 9:02  Methinks your emoticon doth betray you, sir...;) Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... peterchen23-Oct-03 9:41 peterchen 23-Oct-03 9:41  grinning madly and hiding my true affections - that is SOOO me. "Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel." sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe23-Oct-03 11:02 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 23-Oct-03 11:02  Being enigmatic works for me too sometimes. Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... fuckstick23-Oct-03 21:09 fuckstick 23-Oct-03 21:09  yeah that's what I recon - f*** 'em all and let god sort it out Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe24-Oct-03 0:06 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 24-Oct-03 0:06  With a name like that, what makes you think anyone will listen to your opinions? Anna Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In Re: for the two guys who voted "sex" and "womanizing".... Jon Newman24-Oct-03 4:18 Jon Newman 24-Oct-03 4:18  Don't rise to him/her Anna, people as arrogant and stupid as that have no place using computers. I'm supprised his arrogance hasn't killed him yet. Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Blog [^]

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