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totally irresponsible developers and testers ..releasing updates without testing ... imagine working at a big company with your so called agent installed in windows system directory and as a driver and used at critical points world wide...blame it on dev ops and other fancy words.....people getting stuck ...hell for system admins...world wide..
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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abmv wrote: totally irresponsible developers and testers ..releasing updates without testing ...
Don't blame the devs. To an extent, don't even blame the testers.
Blame those who signed off on the whole thing being released. Which I'm betting are multiple levels of management up.
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abmv wrote: and we learn from this
Now that's a tall order.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I certainly haven't read every single last detail available on this (not even close), but my current understanding is that CrowdStrike has some security software that includes a kernel mode driver, and a new release of it is what's causing the crash.
Drivers are some of the most notoriously difficult software to write, and they need to be written correctly, otherwise this is the result, unlike your average spreadsheet app crashing. Does this particular driver provide some functionality that couldn't be done in a user-mode app, or handed off to MS's own AV?
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This is what I have heard as well. There is a chunk of code that is deep in the kernel. That's all well and good, but if you want to put your hands down some other person's pants, you might ask for permission - in this case, test the flying elephant out of it.
This smells like Crowdstrike got a bit lazy, and the other post about layers of management being involved induces me to go hmm.
I'm not blaming the developers or testers. This is a systems engineering issue, and due to the critical nature of this software, there needs to be ONE person willing to bet his or her job that all is well. With all that said, how f'ing hard would it be to duplicate - I don't know - the servers of 10 key customers and test it on those machines?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: how f'ing hard would it be to duplicate
Well, there's plenty of test machines available to try on now! 
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+10 internet points 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Looks like xkcd is getting in on this
xkcd: CrowdStrike
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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Crowdstrike will likely not survive this incident. If you own stock, dump it now.
I know many of us here do things like web development, etc but many of us work on mission critical systems. I read an article that the FAA was having difficulty communicating with in flight aircraft. Depending on Microsoft for mission critical systems is begging for a career ending day.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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One of favorite comedians has passed. Bob Newhart[^] at 94.
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A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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RIP Bob
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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don't worry, you'll wake up and it was just a weird dream.
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CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Betty White story retold?
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Latest Article: EventAggregator
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That is the absolute best finale of any show I've ever seen. I still laugh when ever I think of it.
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