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Thunderbird has been my SMTP client for years. My problem may be Thunderbird related, but my gut feeling says that it is not ...

I have several times noticed, when fetching new mail, that the status line says: 'Retrieving message 4 of 12', or something like that. When it completes, there are far less than 12 new messages in my inbox.

Tonight, it retrieved 'x of 6 messages', but only a single new message was in my inbox. There is nothing in the Thrash (and when something goes to Thrash, a counter displays the number of new entries). If a filter had redirected the messages to some other folder, it would have been seen in new count for that folder. Anyway, I have looked through every single folder, without finding anything new.

This is a fairly new thing; I have noticed it for a few weeks. Can anyone explain what is happening? Why does Thunderbird report 6 messages and display only 1 to me? I am suspecting that someone are trying to check if my mail address is valid, possibly also to see if I am reading the mailbox, by sending messages which somehow is marked to be deleted immediately, or possibly at a specific point in time that is already past - but I wasn't aware that SMTP had such a feature.

For the sender to be notified that I have received the mail, I am aware of an SMPT option for that. Thunderbird has several times presented a dialog box telling that the sender has requested a confirmation that the message has been received, with buttons for 'Return confirmation' and 'Do not send confirmation'. I have seen nothing of this when messages are 'missing'. I wasn't aware of an SMPT option for 'silently' generating a read confirmation - does it exist? If it exists, can it be used to secretly 'ping' me, the way it appears to me now?

Is there some other possible explanation? Could it be a Thunderbird hiccup? (That is a strange hiccup!)

Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

Duplicates in 'All Mail' and Important ? I've seen that happen, but didn't pay attention to the message count.

I do not have, nor can I remember ever having an 'All Mail' and 'Important' folder. Searching in the TB help information, it seems as if it may be related to IMAP mail servers - my connection is via pop3. Some entries about 'All Mail' also seem to relate it to gmail, but gmail is not my mail provider; I use online.no, a mail service run by the Norwegian phone company.

Any further proposals?

Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

Maybe try thunderbird forums / support.

Are some going into a spam folder?

I have searched each and every mail folder, including Trash/spam folders. (Also: Thunderbird displays the number of unread messages in all folders; I see the spam count since last cleanup.)

I noticed that in C:App\users\<username>\AppData\Local\Thunderbird\Profiles\<profileid>\cache2\entries\ there are a few hundred files, mostly with binary/encrypted data, but some parts are readable text. A fair share of these, roughly 1 in 4 files, contains a (long) line starting with "content-security-policy: script-src https://ssl.google-analytics.com/ga.js ..." This strengthens my suspicion that some sort of monitoring / spying is going on.

I do no consider Google Analytics to represent my security concerns! Quite to the opposite. Google is more like securing profits, or possibly helping the authorities being secure against people with non-PC thoughts. (Eric Blair has some hints and tips on how to do that.)

Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

Is the single message you see SPAM?

Could be a lazy spammer that is not bothering to change the Message-ID on the message. Sends the message 6 times. Mail client sees 6 messages on the server downloads them, but they all have the same Message-ID, so it correctly de-duplicates them.

If that is the case, then my next question would be:
Why didn’t the server de-duplicate them?

NOTE: fixed link
Have any of you noticed this "skip to main content" feature in your browser shown in this snapshot[^].?

I absolutely hate it. I'm running Brave (chrome-based) and the latest release includes this so that it can help you get to the main content, but it does not work properly and it's just something else annoying that you have to click so you can see the content. It makes no sense at all.

It's a Genius-Feature, by half!

On the example page above it moves me to the first sentence of the article, but I was already sitting on the first sentence of the article.

I've tried to discover how to turn it off but it looks like there is no way to turn it off.
I seriously can't believe this is a "feature". This is the functional equivalent of the <blink> tag. Remember that gem?

modified 29-Apr-24 8:20am.

The link seems to show something different.

Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

Thanks, I fixed the link now so you can see the example.

What version of Brave are you using, what platform?
I'm tapping this into Brave 1.65.122 on Android and I use
Brave* on Ubuntu as my main desktop browser.
I've never seen the thing you describe.

* can't look it up right now, whatever the latest stable release is on Ubuntu 22.04LTS.
[edit] Home now, Brave is 1.65.123 on desktop. [/edit]

Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

modified 29-Apr-24 2:43am.

First of all, I fixed the link so you can see the example snapshot[^].
Also, I'm running on Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS and running Brave version 1.65.123 Chromium: 124.0.6367.91 (Official Build) (64-bit)

I've also noticed that this feature only shows up "sometimes". But when it does it's really annoying.

Are you sure it's the browser, not the page content?
Use 'view source', or dev tools 'inspect' to look at the popup.

Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

It is the page content but it only shows up in Brave
I hope this isn’t a feature that starts showing up

<mode:tinfoil-helmet>
M$ site... "foreign" browser?
</mode>
If it really pees you off, start noting what sites it happens on. There might be a pattern...

Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

modified 30-Apr-24 3:16am.

The odd thing is that, now that I've talked about it...it doesn't even happen on that original site any more. I can't figure out why it happens sometimes and not others. It's an odd feature that has been around for a long time but I've only seen it recently on two sites:
1) the microsoft site
2) oreilly.com - digital book site
Very odd.

Long time ago I received some basic training about C in short community college class.
The teacher made references to "ANSI C ".
Just run into very confusing documentation while trying to
detect standard window "close" AKA " click X" icon..

Mixture of event / receiver / default implementation /re implementation.

Hence this , non programming question,

Is there such thing as "ANSI C ++ " ?

No, It is an ISO (International Standards Organization) C++ standard. I think ANSI (American National Standard Institute) stopped producing C/C++ standards some time ago. Now they are all ISO standards.

Mircea

	No - absolutely nothing to report
	Maybe. Or it could have just been the nylon carpet
	A little. (and please share the details)
	Yes, a lot. (and we absolutely need details!)
	Geomagnetic what?

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