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Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

7-Dec-23 8:16

MIT Technology Review[^]:
AI coding assistants are here to stay—but just how big a difference they make is still unclear.

By interrupting developers every 15 minutes to let them know there's a new AI assistant on the market

When everyone knows that's my job!

Nelek7-Dec-23 9:33

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

7-Dec-23 9:33

I was speaking about it today with a friend of mine, due to an article in german magazine about the new version of Google's AI (alphacode 2) beating devs...

At the end both have agreed: We will buy popcorn and wait for the first big "OOOOPS" News that will come, because someone decided to let "AI" do all the job in something important, because we devs are obsolete.

M.D.V.

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Kent Sharkey7-Dec-23 9:41

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

7-Dec-23 9:41

I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been an oops moment yet, but I imagine it might be hard to identify it between all the human oops moments out there.

TTFN - Kent

Nelek7-Dec-23 11:09

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

7-Dec-23 11:09

Kent Sharkey wrote:
I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been an oops moment yet,

People usually are afraid / cautious with new things. There must already have been some, but still small enough to not do it to the mainstream.
It has been over a year and the chat bots are really making advances, but they still are only helpers. As a tool to increase productivity, yeah, I can buy that, anything more than that, specially creativity, different perspective adoption to solve problems... definitively not for a while.
But we already know there are enough managers out there that will buy it and fire most of their IT / dev people, because AI can do it better and faster. When that happens, it will last not so long until the big OOOPS comes.

M.D.V.

Kevin McFarlane7-Dec-23 23:42

Kevin McFarlane

7-Dec-23 23:42

Nelek wrote:
As a tool to increase productivity, yeah, I can buy that, anything more than that, specially creativity, different perspective adoption to solve problems... definitively not for a while.

Thus far, I've found them useful/helpful on coding and other technical tasks - sometimes even when they are wrong.

E.g., a while back I fired a math question at one of the AIs, from a course I'd been taking because I didn't fully understand it. The AI explained it a bit better but actually got its calculation wrong! But I was able to see from its correct explanation why it had got its answer wrong. I then told it so and it corrected itself.

Kevin

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

Nelek8-Dec-23 4:22

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

8-Dec-23 4:22

Kevin McFarlane wrote:
But I was able to see from its correct explanation why it had got its answer wrong. I then told it so and it corrected itself.

If I had done the very same question a while later... would I had got the right answer?

M.D.V.

Kevin McFarlane8-Dec-23 4:31

Kevin McFarlane

8-Dec-23 4:31

In theory you should! But I bet you wouldn't necessarily.

I find it odd, though, that when it gets it wrong you can sometimes just say you got this bit wrong and it will apologise and do it correctly! But then you wonder why it couldn't have self-checked somehow?

I guess that since it doesn't know that it's wrong the first time, it can't do anything until something tells it that it's wrong. Then I assume it must dig up some alternative algorithm.

Kevin

Re: How AI assistants are already changing the way code gets made

David O'Neil8-Dec-23 21:34

David O'Neil

8-Dec-23 21:34

Kevin McFarlane wrote:
a while back I fired a math question at one of the AIs, from a course I'd been taking because I didn't fully understand it. The AI explained it a bit better but actually got its calculation wrong! But I was able to see from its correct explanation why it had got its answer wrong. I then told it so and it corrected itself.

Not too long ago I asked ChatGPT what the black marks on Japanese woman's foreheads meant in the older culture. It answered with the word for the Japanese tradition of blackening the teeth, which was also prevalent back then. So I googled, and found the right tradition, and said "don't you mean X?" and it gave me a breakdown between the words for both traditions, and hoped that it clarified the situation! Laugh | :laugh:

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Notepad on Windows 11 is finally getting a character count

Kent Sharkey7-Dec-23 8:16

Re: Notepad on Windows 11 is finally getting a character count

7-Dec-23 8:16

The Verge[^]:
Microsoft is also improving its widgets section in Windows 11 with the option to disable the feed of news.

And now it's complete

Nelek7-Dec-23 9:13

Light can travel backward in time (sort of)

7-Dec-23 9:13

Kent Sharkey wrote:
with the option to disable the feed of news.

endly something useful Jig | [Dance]

M.D.V.

Kent Sharkey7-Dec-23 8:01

7-Dec-23 8:01

Scientific American[^]:
Light can be reflected not only in space but also in time—and researchers exploring such “time reflections” are finding a wealth of delightfully odd and useful effects

First, you need a DeLorean

Well, maybe not 'need', but if you're going to do it, you might as well do it in style

Nelek7-Dec-23 9:12

7-Dec-23 9:12

I see it coming... after the lotery numbers are known, a lot of people with mirrors looking for the correct sunshine...

M.D.V.

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David O'Neil8-Dec-23 21:35

David O'Neil

8-Dec-23 21:35

I can travel backwards in time, but somehow I always end up with a hangover...

kalberts9-Dec-23 15:10

kalberts

9-Dec-23 15:10

Funny thing - getting the hangover before your night out.

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David O'Neil9-Dec-23 20:23

David O'Neil

9-Dec-23 20:23

Gotta stop driving the damn DeLorean! Laugh | :laugh:

Nelek9-Dec-23 22:15

9-Dec-23 22:15

Were you driving before getting drunk? WTF | :WTF:

How you dare? Laugh | :laugh:

M.D.V.

Daniel Pfeffer10-Dec-23 0:37

Daniel Pfeffer

10-Dec-23 0:37

I only drink re-annual wine - I get drunk before the grape vines are even planted!

The Oh-God of wine must really hate me...

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Linus Torvalds on the state of Linux today and how AI figures in its future

obermd9-Dec-23 7:01

obermd

9-Dec-23 7:01

There was once a lady named Brite
Who could travel faster than light
She went off one day
In a relative way
And came back the previous night.

Kent Sharkey7-Dec-23 7:31

Re: Linus Torvalds on the state of Linux today and how AI figures in its future

7-Dec-23 7:31

ZDNet[^]:
At Open Source Summit Japan, Linux and Git creator Linus Torvalds talked about Rust in Linux, Linux maintainer fatigue, and AI's future role in Linux and open-source development.

Are we going to get The Year of AI on Linux?

Nelek7-Dec-23 9:11

.NET Native AOT explained

7-Dec-23 9:11

Kent Sharkey wrote:
Are we going to get The Year of AI on Linux?

Will it make all the phones ring at once?

M.D.V.

Kent Sharkey7-Dec-23 7:31

7-Dec-23 7:31

NDepend[^]:
The present article delves into .NET Native AOT, uncovering how it works, its benefits, and the various scenarios where it finds application.

Write once, run in one place

Richard Andrew x647-Dec-23 13:11

Richard Andrew x64

7-Dec-23 13:11

Quote:
.NET Native Ahead-of-Time (AOT) compilation stands as a cutting-edge advancement within the .NET platform. With AOT the C# code is compiled to native code on the developer machine. This contrasts with the traditional method where code is compiled to native code during runtime.

This article was written as though the audience was born yesterday. That's not a cutting-edge advancement. It's the way software had been produced for decades prior to the .NET Framework.

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.

Greg Utas7-Dec-23 14:31

Greg Utas

7-Dec-23 14:31

Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
That's not a cutting-edge advancement. It's the way software had been produced for decades prior to the .NET Framework.

Which makes it cutting-edge for .NET!

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Richard Andrew x648-Dec-23 10:57

Richard Andrew x64

8-Dec-23 10:57

I guess in a way that's sorta true.

But I also had a thought about the audience. If the reader is a twenty-something, then .NET might be all they know.

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.