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i am only ashamed that i never used basic, vb or otherwise for applications
PLI/I, Fortran (lots), Cobol(lots), C(lots and lots)
I actually learned Algol and used it for short time.
I was in the faster is better application area (computer graphics, numerical anal., simulation)
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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FORTRAN in itself isn't terrible. Millions of lines of FORTRAN written by scientists who never did any formal computing and just let their systems grow and metastasise...that was torture.
Hopefully never again.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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 agree
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I haven't heard that name in many a long year.
(Wow I feel old now)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Delphi 6.
I used it for 2 different jobs. One job was Delphi only from 2004 to 2013. When that job played out (gov't contract not renewed) I reluctantly listed Delphi on my resume. Within the same month my old job ended I was hired as contract to hire at my current job specifically because of Delphi 6 on my resume. I have since transitioned to Java.
I do love the colon equals operator for assignment, no if (a = b) instead of if (a == b) mistakes there.
I started my career in a similar way, got first job because I knew dBase III+, soon move to Microsoft C 5.1.
Yes, that was a long time ago.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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Ah I remember Delphi, we built a solution that worked for about 2 hours before the memory leaks crippled it, took the code to Borland and they could not fix it, Delphi died that day along with 3 months of work.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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The first (real) language I learned was Pascal and I still respect the walrus operator. It just always seemed more imperative than plain '='.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I used Delphi at my previous job, 2001-2012. The team lead had written a lot of projects in Turbo Pascal. They converted nicely to Delphi. Unfortunatly the bad habbits that were needed in DOS came along free for the ride.
The biggest was string handling. Trying to move from Delphi 7/Delphi 2006 to Delphi XE was a killer because the default definition of 'string' being an AnsiString changed to a UnicodeString breaking a lot of our libraries as they treated the strings as arrays.
They other issue was that the code was written as giant loop that ran in the idle time of Windows. This had the side effect of showing our application using 100% of the CPU time.
I do miss the Borland days though.
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BASIC, in all the flavors I've used since I started this craft: MS-BASIC, GW-BASIC, QuickBasic, PowerBasic, VB 1 for DOS, VB4, VB6, VB.NET.
I learned and achieved a lot using it, and have no regrets or embarrassment.
My favorite language is the first one I learned, though I've rarely used it: Assembly
There are no solutions, only trade-offs. - Thomas Sowell
A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
- Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)
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Languages (both natural and computer) are tools. Would you ask a carpenter whether he/she/it is ashamed of using a hammer?
There are languages that are better (or worse) for a particular purpose, and there are languages whose syntax causes me to shudder (e.g. Python's significant indentation), but there is no language that I would feel ashamed to know.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Some mechanics look down their nose at impact wrenches. Just sayin'
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honey the codewitch wrote: Some mechanics look down their nose at impact wrenches. Just sayin'
As the son of a mechanic, I'd say, none of these people has ever tried to make a living as a mechanic. Or they're paid by the hour.
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Or really big forearm muscles? Really big.
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I'd say they're paid by the hour. 
But I mean, you could extend the analogy to something like C versus VB6 I think.
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Sure.
I was probably being way too literal.
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Youl'd never undo the machine assembled bits without an impact
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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There's nothing you can't undo with enough heat and a long enough lever.
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True
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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... because most still don't torque wheel nuts right (the mechanic or the tool?). You need a breaker bar to loosen them.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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FoxPro... starting from v2.0 for DOS all the way through v2.6 for Windows. 
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I worked on the worlds largest and longest running ( to date ) liquidation for 21 years, all the claim handling and payment systems where written in Foxpro for DOS. It performed brilliantly and never let us down.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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gwbasic, as it is better than python 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Gee Wiz basic
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Better than Phyton, innit?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Do you secretly love Perl?
Certainly not ashamed about it.
But I don't expect anyone else in the group to use it or even understand it. If I must create a tool for others to use then I extensively document the usage.
And I comment the code extensively too. Not just why the code is doing something but explaining what the code actually does (the sort of comments that should not normally appear in code.)
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