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Richard Deeming13-Oct-23 5:30

Richard Deeming

13-Oct-23 5:30

They're also blocking Edge's "strict tracking prevention" mode.

But then Google's top search result for "youtube" has apparently been returning sponsored links, including one that claims to point to youtube.com, but actually takes you to a full-screen takeover tech support scam site. D'Oh! | :doh:

Apologies for the tw@tter link, but it's the best source I could find: https://twitter.com/ericlaw/status/1712531148356661494

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Graeme_Grant13-Oct-23 5:36

Graeme_Grant

13-Oct-23 5:36

Opera One works well...

Graeme

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Graeme_Grant13-Oct-23 13:25

Graeme_Grant

13-Oct-23 13:25

I've been using both Chrome + UBlock Origin and Opera One heavily with YT this morning and both have not had Google complain or show ads... Touch Wood!

Graeme

"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

fatman4516-Oct-23 4:17

fatman45

16-Oct-23 4:17

UBlock doesn't work anymore. Saturday I got the message from YT that I needed to drop the ad blocker in order to continue watching a video. Browser was Edge on Linux Mint.

Da Bomb

Graeme_Grant16-Oct-23 4:30

Graeme_Grant

16-Oct-23 4:30

fatman45 wrote:
UBlock doesn't work anymore.

As fast as Google/YT blocks, UBlock has a fix ... Click on "Report a problem", then "Update Now". Once done, then refresh and all is fixed.

The alternate is Opera One ... Not blocked.

Graeme

"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee

Ed Attfield13-Oct-23 6:31

Ed Attfield

13-Oct-23 6:31

There are some tools like Invidious e.g. the one at yewtu.be which allow watching YouTube videos without advertising and without tracking.

You have to know which video you want because recommendations are not personalised Smile | :)

trønderen13-Oct-23 7:07

trønderen

13-Oct-23 7:07

I never was inside the code of an adblocker, and know little about their nature. So I ask from a lack of knowledge/understanding: Is is difficult/impossible to write an adblocker that pretends to accept ads, possibly by drawing a full blown screen image on a virtual screen not displayed to the user, but so that ad code may interrogate this virtual screen, and it behaves as if it was real?

The non-ad-code is run for the real, physical screen image. This would of course require a few extra CPU cycles, and a little RAM space, but would it be possible to do it that way? The information provider would get their ad money: The ad was displayed on a virtual screen, although I didn't see it. (I most likely wouldn't have bought the advertised product/service anyway!)

In the paper paper days, the papers often had ad inserts that I could snap out and throw into the paper waste basket without a glance on it. The paper got their advertising money, and noone blamed me for "stealing". I want something similar for ads in web papers. I'll accept that ads are sent to me, but I do not feel obliged to look at them before throwing them away. Just like I did in the paper age.

dandy7213-Oct-23 8:59

dandy72

13-Oct-23 8:59

That's an interesting idea, but if (say) an ad is supposed to last for 30 seconds, and you send it to the virtual window you've provided for it...I'm not sure YT would immediately start sending you the actual video (the one you're interested in) without waiting for the entire ad to play back (or at least been streamed in its entirety). So, the user is facing an empty screen while the ad is "playing" on the virtual/hidden window...?

jschell13-Oct-23 7:23

jschell

13-Oct-23 7:23

OriginalGriff wrote:
Despite trying to serve me several dozen ads per page

Youtube right?

Far as I can tell I don't see any ads except for the 1/2 that sometimes appear before a video starts?

OriginalGriff13-Oct-23 8:39

OriginalGriff

13-Oct-23 8:39

uBlock shows how many ads it blocked on the current page: YT is showing 10 today, but I've seen 53 before.
I have nothing against ad supported models, but when you force that many ads on me, I'm not whitelisting you. And if you won't show me content without a greedy heap of crap being thrown at me, I'll bugger off elsewhere.

It's like those GDPR banners which forces you to visit each of their vendors and deselect them individually: I'm not doing that, I'm not there any more and I'm not coming back.

You get greedy and you lose visitors.

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jschell18-Oct-23 5:48

jschell

18-Oct-23 5:48

OriginalGriff wrote:
uBlock shows how many ads it blocked on the current page

I suppose I just do not 'see' them because I do not look.

So just now when I looked at the youtube side bar (right) I can see a list of 'videos' and some of them look like ads.

But I almost never look at that. So I don't see them.

Jeremy Falcon13-Oct-23 7:55

Jeremy Falcon

13-Oct-23 7:55

I pay for YT premium... of course, I still have to deal with in video ads. That whole pay model for premium users never worked. So, people still pay and have to deal with content creators doing in-video ads. It's too much IMO.

Jeremy Falcon

Rich Shealer16-Oct-23 2:45

Rich Shealer

16-Oct-23 2:45

I have had YT Premium for several years. Sometimes I get on some form of device where I'm not logged in and no adblocker. YouTube becomes almost unwatchable. A self incentive to get out and do something physical in the world.

Jeremy Falcon16-Oct-23 4:10

Jeremy Falcon

16-Oct-23 4:10

Amen, brother.

Jeremy Falcon

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter14-Oct-23 12:11

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

14-Oct-23 12:11

I am using add blocker and can't see any changes in last days... Wonder when it will hit me too...

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brompot15-Oct-23 21:03

brompot

15-Oct-23 21:03

I have the best ad blocker for YT ever. It's called YouTube premium. And they never disable it.

Come on dude, they need to make money somehow and if you don't like how they do it, just use something else.

Mattintosh16-Oct-23 5:15

Mattintosh

16-Oct-23 5:15

Does no one use NoScript anymore?

YouTube has a difficult time blocking adblock if their anti-adblock script can't run.

SeattleC++16-Oct-23 5:37

SeattleC++

16-Oct-23 5:37

Youtube doesn't like something about my firefox settings, even if I disable my ad blocker.

Im just going to abandon youtube. It's not worth the effort to battle yt's large staff to get ad-free content. I'll have to spend a few bucks a month for a music service (which I needed to do anyway), but I won't miss youtube that much.

WSO CCC OTD 13-Oct-2023

Mircea Neacsu12-Oct-23 22:08

12-Oct-23 22:08

Crownin’ fool, blowin’ air (5)

Mircea

pkfox12-Oct-23 22:11

pkfox

12-Oct-23 22:11

Tiara?

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Mircea Neacsu12-Oct-23 22:16

12-Oct-23 22:16

Nope

Mircea

OriginalGriff12-Oct-23 22:12

OriginalGriff

12-Oct-23 22:12

DYLAN?

Mircea Neacsu12-Oct-23 22:17

12-Oct-23 22:17

Nope

Mircea

pkfox12-Oct-23 22:25

pkfox

12-Oct-23 22:25

Glory ? Clown ?

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

Mircea Neacsu12-Oct-23 22:31