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11-Jan-23 7:31

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Rick York11-Jan-23 6:03

Rick York

11-Jan-23 6:03

Since I often whine about Microsoft and their bugs it is time to give credit where it is due. They actually fixed one that had been really annoying me. A couple of revs ago they broke the Batch Build option so it would not retain its selections. That is now fixed in the 17.4.4 release and I am really, really glad to see it since I relied on it heavily. This version also improves support for handling multiple repositories in one solution. Thankfully, I have found no new issues with it.

This has been a very welcome update.

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Daniel Pfeffer11-Jan-23 19:45

Daniel Pfeffer

11-Jan-23 19:45

Rick York wrote:
Since I often whine about Microsoft and their bugs it is time to give credit where it is due. They actually fixed one [snip]

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Stepan Hakobyan11-Jan-23 21:03

Stepan Hakobyan

11-Jan-23 21:03

Well, another 20 I reported are still not fixed (

Rick York12-Jan-23 4:48

Rick York

12-Jan-23 4:48

There are a few others I have reported that have not been fixed, another that they stated was "behavior by design" which, as far as I am concerned, is bad design. Oh well.

"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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Paul Sanders (the other one)11-Jan-23 22:50

11-Jan-23 22:50

since I relied on it heavily

Not using MSBuild?

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BernardIE531712-Jan-23 2:58

BernardIE5317

12-Jan-23 2:58

I have been curious for some time re/ the number of developers working on Visual Studio . May I inquire if anyone here happens to know . Also may I add I am always dumb-founded at the looooong list of fixes yet to be implemented . I also wonder re/ the total size of Visual Studio e.g. number of lines of code . I am glad I am not one of the VS developers as the complexity boggles my mind . May I also say I am often surprised simple enhancements never are made one in particular which annoys me and can find no logical reason for though it is a common Windows UI i.e. to wit in order to open a Menu item drop down list it is common to be required to click upon it which to my mind makes no sense as all is necessary it seems is merely to hover over it . Countless clicks have been wasted in this manner .

JohnDG5212-Jan-23 4:11

JohnDG52

12-Jan-23 4:11

I've used VS for many years - mostly VB and VB.NET, including a pretty big .NET system controlling a multi-million € scientific machine. Last couple of years I've been using it for Arduino C/C++ stuff. I guess I haven't been stretching VS, as all the bugs I've come across have been of my own making.

DoNotPay offers lawyers $1 Million to let its AI argue before the Supreme Court in their place

Marc Clifton12-Jan-23 8:25

Marc Clifton

12-Jan-23 8:25

Now if I can only get my broken Visual Studio Installer to work. The only option I seem to have is to uninstall VS2022 and re-install it. Frown | :(

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Kent Sharkey10-Jan-23 9:31

Re: DoNotPay offers lawyers $1 Million to let its AI argue before the Supreme Court in their place

10-Jan-23 9:31

Gizmodo[^]:
The robot lawyer is powered by OpenAI’s GPT-3 API, the force behind the viral ChatGPT chatbot.

Must. not. use. 'then they came' reference. After all, who would stop them coming for lawyers?

Well, other than lawyers, of course.

David O'Neil10-Jan-23 10:03

David O'Neil

10-Jan-23 10:03

So the joke will become, "What do you call a thousand ChatGPT servers at the bottom of the ocean? - A good start!" Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: DoNotPay offers lawyers $1 Million to let its AI argue before the Supreme Court in their place

englebart11-Jan-23 14:15

englebart

11-Jan-23 14:15

Opposing counsel opens brief case and turns on WI-FI jammer.

“Sign here to accept my final offer before we go to trial.”

Clever code considered harmful

Kent Sharkey10-Jan-23 9:31

10-Jan-23 9:31

Josh W Comeau[^]:
There is something undeniably satisfying about coming up with clever solutions to hard problems.

That's why all my code is dumb

{Insert Benoit Blanc quote here}

BillWoodruff11-Jan-23 1:41

BillWoodruff

11-Jan-23 1:41

Quote:
Outside of the film, Daniel Craig has spoken about the influences of his accent, citing a historical figure. The historian Shelby Foote was from the southern state of Mississippi and wrote a three-part Civil War history that was released in 1990. Foote died in 2005.

Shelby Foote appears frequently in Ken Burns' remarkable US Civil War documentary series. Shelby has the most beautiful voice i've ever heard: his accent sounds more North Carolinian to my ears, but, i am from the shallow south, not the deep south.

fyi: Foote's writing and positions on contemporary US issues have made him (cancelled ?) scorned by many historians, and reviled by many who consider him a racist, and apologist for the South.

Maybe i should watch the movie ? ... never seen any movie with Craig.

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Kent Sharkey11-Jan-23 8:19

11-Jan-23 8:19

He's not exactly the most expressive of actors, so I wouldn't spend too much of an effort. Glass Onion (and Knives Out) were amusing enough for a few hours, though.

TTFN - Kent

den2k8811-Jan-23 3:02

11-Jan-23 3:02

Having had my share of encounters with clever code and habing written my share of it, I concur. My career resolution is to strive to be a programmer as boring as possible.

Clever solutions are awesome, plain solutions that reliably work and are easy to inspect, debug and modify are better.

GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

raddevus11-Jan-23 3:16

raddevus

11-Jan-23 3:16

I mean you don't think this clever code is clear (from the article)?

pe58 = n
  where
  a p q = scanl (+) p $ iterate (+ 8) q
  b = [[x,y,z] | (x,(y,z)) <- zip (a 3 10) $ zip (a 5 12) (a 7 14)]
  c = zip (scanl1 (+) . map (length . filter isPrime) $ b) (iterate (+ 4) 5)
  [(n,_)] = take 1 $ dropWhile (\(_,(a,b)) -> 10*a > b) $ zip [3,5..] c

It's haskell, apparently... Dead | X|

I'd rather write machine language code.

obermd11-Jan-23 3:41

obermd

11-Jan-23 3:41

The article talks about the intern test - forget that. What about the look at the code six months from now before coffee test? Java | [Coffee]

den2k8811-Jan-23 4:07

11-Jan-23 4:07

Intern test doesn't work. I had an intern that didn't even know the difference between a struct and an array after 5 years of computer engineering and a month long course provided from the company. He was also completely unable to understand the error messages from the compiler (and it wasn't gcc, it actually had decent error messages) and still couldn't after we tried to train him with a special compiler designed as a training tool for beginners.

Your suggestion is spot-on instead.

GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

BernardIE531712-Jan-23 3:30

BernardIE5317

12-Jan-23 3:30

How does such a person survive 5y of engineer schooling w/o changing field of study to say 16'th Century English Literaure or perhaps Inuit Surf-boarding . Also how does such a person survive interview process at company . If such people are hired why is no one knocking on my door .

den2k8812-Jan-23 3:47

12-Jan-23 3:47

BernardIE5317 wrote:
how does such a person survive interview process at company

Two reasons:
1) consultancy firms (actually body-rental) will get whatever passes through them and throw them at customers like in Angry Birds. Once every few throws even the most useless birds will hit something vital.
2) this particular specimen happened to be interviewed by a particularly unprofessional manager who hired him simply because they cam from the same city - and this manager always does it. Anyone from Catania that's interviewed by him will be automatically hired.

BernardIE5317 wrote:
How does such a person survive 5y of engineer schooling

I had so many fellow students passing exams rote-learning only the previous years exams and their solutions and cobbling together something similar without having understood anything. Plus there is always copying from other students, which in my country is quite common as Uni isn't as competitive as elsewhere and exchanging favours and connections is much, much more valued.

GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Nelek12-Jan-23 5:59

Nelek

12-Jan-23 5:59

den2k88 wrote:
Plus there is always copying from other students, which in my country is quite common as Uni isn't as competitive as elsewhere and exchanging favours and connections is much, much more valued.

Spain the same. The "I owe you one" sometime is better than money, depending on where does the pal ends.

On a side note, one of the lamest copiers I heard about:
The guy who was actually doing the exam himself answered one question with "I don't know", the guy copying was so lame to answer "neither do I" D'Oh! | :doh:

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den2k8812-Jan-23 21:15

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12-Jan-23 21:15

Nelek wrote:
The "I owe you one" sometime is better than money, depending on where does the pal ends.

I found myself in the unenviable situation of having to explain to an exchange student why an entire group of people didn't even talk to her and why another group suddenly stopped.

She didn't understand at all the clan mentality existing in Italy, so if you are friend with a particular group of people you don't collaborate or ask for help to another group unless you can be sure that you can be a merging point. She ended up shadowing me, an outlier with only outlier friends.

GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Kent Sharkey10-Jan-23 9:31