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I'm very sorry, but I didn't know where are you living. As far as I can understand, the CodeProject is located in Toronto, Canada, so I thought that you are from Canada, too. I'm apologizing for it!!! ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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No need to be sorry! I'm not CP, I'm only a member 
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JFYI: The Medium Staff platform has launched a publications channel, called Views Into War, focused on the war in Ukraine. Nicely organized articles, providing an ability to listen to the audio instead of reading it:
Here's the link: https://medium.com/@MediumStaff/views-into-war-88c43fde4a2a[^]
To do that, just toggle on the green play button on the top.
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Also, the first and second Ukrainian-Russian negotiation meetings, held in Minsk, Belorussia, aiming to stop the Russian military invasion, had no effect on the war situation, still. And, I'm very upset that the conflict won't come to its end, finally.
Thus, the only that must have been done by all of us is to wait and believe that the war will end, anyway and whatever it takes.
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I'm apologizing, but I've not asked for the help or assistance of anyone on the Lounge. I just wanted to inform you and others in my previous posts about the gravity of the war situation in Ukraine, becoming more serious in the past few days.
Thanks for your understanding.
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Nobody accused you! Myself started it and you answered 
Nonetheless, can I maybe help you more specifically?
My only intention is to help people in Ukraine.
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Quote: Nobody accused you! Myself started it and you answered Confused |
No problem. Just don't mind it.
Quote: Nonetheless, can I maybe help you more specifically?
My only intention is to help people in Ukraine.
What can you help me with? And what specific help you could provide?
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ive been coding a while and ive been making friends my whole life.
but how do i get these two to join forces?
you only get so much enjoyment out of making something on your own. it just feels like its missing something.
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I taught my friends to code. Helps to start young though.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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You or them? 
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yes.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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What are these "friends" that you mention? I've never heard of them.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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matievisthekat wrote: but how do i get these two to join forces?
Aren't those called "your coworkers"?
And based on my personal experience - as much as I like some of my coworkers, I really try not to go so far in mixing work with personal time and hobbies. Once one of them starts bleeding into the other, things can go bad.
If you ever find yourself burning out at work, your hobby is gonna start to become a lot less appealing - maybe to the point where you're gonna drop the hobby altogether. And if you're only friends with someone through that hobby, and said friend shows up on a Friday evening for a coding session and you really don't feel up to it...that's when feelings can get hurt.
Not speaking from experience here - I've never tried to get friends involved with coding. But I have burned out at work and that has resulted in me completely stopping writing code as a hobby. And frankly I'd rather deal with that on my own than involving some friends who might now be disappointed.
YMMV.
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matievisthekat wrote: but how do i get these two to join forces?
You don't; can't force them.
I made some friends over the years in various companies, not all of them coders. I met a girl once, she's now a better coder than me.
matievisthekat wrote: you only get so much enjoyment out of making something on your own
Hold on, I do not code with friends. Those are coworkers, not friends. There's a private life and a professional one. I don't mix those.
matievisthekat wrote: it just feels like its missing something.
I bet it's bacon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Maybe you can join an open-source project at GitHub, your friends there will be mainly virtual of course 
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do open source projects look for team members or do you just kind of contribute to their repo until they consider you a part of their team?
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I think you just contribute (usually by pull-request) and then they will review your code and see if it is good enough. This is not limited to code, but can also be graphics or documentation for instance.
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This actually works. Have joined at least a few open source projects in my lifetime. Usually it's hard to understand a new codebase right off the bat, but open source projects are usually short on everything including testers. Report a few bugs, with helpful information on how to fix them and wait. Pretty soon you'll be family.
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I would assume you would look in your group of friends, but that's just me.
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Here[^]
Software Zen: delete this;
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I only hope friends remain friends after a few sessions of pair programming. It should not happen that they start fighting over small things like variable naming, indentation, etc., and lose their friendship.
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By mentoring at local school computer clubs in our part of the world, one can share their passion and inspire the younger ones. Friendships build with the other mentors as well.
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"I code alone, yeah yeah, with nobody else." -- George Thorogood
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Careful what you wish for when embarking on a "joint project" ... if there's money to be made; there's always another relative waiting in the wings. A "personal" project is personal for a reason; something to cling to when all desert you. 
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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