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I am fairly certain the rest of the cosmos does not want the human species leaving this planet to mess up other planets.
We are a fairly efficient parasitic species, destroying everything in our path.
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sad but true 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Amateurs. Have not even taken apart a few solar systems for a single dyson sphere yet, but already thinking that they are real gangstas.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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If there is intelligent life out there, I bet they are just as screwed up as we are!
Hogan
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snorkie wrote: intelligent life
Are we really intelligent though? Or, are we just in the habit of inflating our already gigantic egos?
I don't think we are as intelligent as we let on.
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Quote: If
"Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman" . There are countless galaxies each w/ countless stars . And as Mr. Art Bell knew well , they are already here among us . - Cheerios
PS As an aside a bit off topic may I say I consider Mr. Musk's plan to colonize Mars stupid . How those people will tolerate being cooped up for a one-way 6 month journey sure to not survive very long upon colonization and pity the child born I have no idea .
PPS Prior to colonizing we have to master gravity . That might take a century or two . - Cheerio
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If you truly believed that why are you still alive?
Or are you certain that it is “them not me” that is the problem?
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Slacker007 wrote: We are a fairly efficient parasitic species, destroying everything in our path.
All life is parasitic. Any lifeform anywhere in this universe is in a struggle for resources to survive and procreate, in an environment hostile to life, and use of those resources is inherently destructive. Any species that develops an intelligence sufficient to discover and use ways to alter its environment to aid itself in that struggle will end up doing the same things we have, making the same mistakes. That's life, and I see no reason to condemn the human race for living.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Nope. We can't even properly colonize the planet we have.
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Well, you're not wrong...
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No.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I love the optimism of you young whipper snappers, you all seem to think we will survive screwing up the planet we have 
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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They have surely seen WALL·E (2008) - IMDb[^]
Hope never dies...
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Someone uses "Millenials Begone."
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Come out of the colonial / colonization mindset.
Instead, adopt the co-existence mindset. How can we co-exist with aliens, rather than colonizing them.
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Don't tell Musk. He will just start claiming he will send 10 million people there in 2040 and we will again get a bunch of media hype without anyone asking one single critical question. 
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It amazes me how narrow minded scientists and engineers get. They always say "can't" when really they just haven't thought it through.
Yes you could build a craft that would take you safely(ish). It would be a big craft, very big in fact, but we could build one now(ish) if the will was there. So previous calculations I did when I was bored and young and still remembered my first degree told me a radius of 3km and a length of around 6km would be ideal. The design would be a cigar shaped superstructure providing magnetic shielding, round disk shaped components providing accommodation, storage and everything else, the whole thing would be hollow down the central axis. Each of the saucer sections could leave the superstructure in sequence. A bit like the dream of a UFologist but with some badly thought out science behind it. Big problem is building the spacestation you will use to construct the star ship from - quite a few launches, 1000s in fact. I think it was 3000 I calculated. I think I also assumed you'd go off and mine an asteroid for the actual starship materials as a money saving measure. Do we have a government or eccentric billionaire willing to spend fortunes in launching 3000 missions to construct what is a very nice space station but essentially is nothing more than a big factory unit? OK lets say we do....
Main problem is time, it will take a long time, plus you will need to fire and forget pretty much and hope you aimed at a good target. Actually you won't your grandchildren need to hope that.
Not sure how you would feed the populace, even allowing for some form of whacky most-of-the-passengers-in-suspended-animation state (which we might develop but might not in the same way as we might develop rocket boots but might not). LEDs are a good light source, power is a problem, you could interact with the solar wind whilst in the solar system and maybe get similar from the interstellar medium but you'd probably want to take a nuclear power station with you for emergencies and that has a whole range of its own problems.
Speaking of radiation, it isn't the huge deal that the "we couldn't fly to Mars" negativists make it, Solar wind and in fact Galactic wind can be shielded - see above note about the spacecraft being very big - it needs to be very big. Gamma ray bursts would get you, so you'd want to avoid them, but you can't so why worry?
Where? Somewhere close, it'll take about many years to get anywhere good so anywhere that will do.
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Eek Ten Bears wrote: It amazes me how narrow minded scientists and engineers get. They always say "can't" when really they just haven't thought it through.
Or maybe they have.
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Does the tag:MFC or #MFC still work here?
I don't want be plopped with C# & NET articles here at first.
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Did you try it? Or you could just go straight to MFC[^]
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There is no MFC tag AFAIK - it pretty much died as a "new project" framework over a decade ago and while it is still used it's much more for maintenance than new work I suspect. Think about the changes in C++ since MS stopped updating it and you can understand why: vectors alone render MFC container classes pretty much irrelevant.
You can add "MFC" to the article search field though: Search: MFC[^]
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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In my mind I can not understand why we can use #VB6 tag and not #mfc.
OK, MFC at the beginning helps and add the not wished keyword NOT #C.
I was (and am still) searching for some tips (or articles) about CButton which fire a BN_CLICKED already if the left mouse button is down.
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I can't understand why anyone wants to use VB, let alone VB6 ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I use VB6 supporting several of my customers. Have been since it first came out. 
I am trying to learn Python right now.
Go with what you know.
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