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I have Agent 47's mobile number, if that's any help?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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discussion with another programmer just yesterday. All Deadlines are arbitrary and can be moved. Even if the salesman says they cannot. so salesmen must go away. Especially in this instance.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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When this happens, you have to wonder if it means a big commission or bonus for the salesman. In which case, if you meet the ridiculous schedule, you should get some of it. After all, he was just a yes-man, but you had the stress of delivering. I'd be tempted to discuss this directly with the salesman. And if he doesn't agree, you don't bust your butt.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Foo is a re-write of a component. No one will notice it in itself but it makes writing other stuff easier. This a months work.
Will also save work if other stuff depending on Foo. Making stuff available sooner, so should have priority.
Nagy Vilmos wrote: In the nasty spit ball World of Sales a customer needs Bar and won't wait 6 weeks, even 4 is too long!
What sales promises, is the problem of sales, and should not affect your planning.
Don't sell the bear until it is shot.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Don't sell the bear until it is shot
May I borrow that? I rather like it, and bear hunting was a thing at one time where I live.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Now for my question. How long do I leave it before Bob the Sales has an unfortunate accident?
If you have to ask, you're not ready for BOFH-hood. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Is anyone else's comp / mouse starting to do weird things on the mouse front?
I don't know if it was a recent update that has triggered this, but it is starting to drive me nuts.
Windows randomly switches into mouse scroll mode, changes the icon on screen as well, and then when I move my mouse, it scrolls the page up and down. I have no idea what triggers it, and pressing ESC or clicking the screen furiously can stop it.
I thought it might be the Lenovo AutoScroll Service, but my understanding that this is for moving partially off screen windows back in view when the mouse reaches screen edge, I have stopped the service to see what happens longer term.
[Edit: Still does it with the AutoScroll service disabled, so it is not that!]
Any one else seen this (mis)behaviour recently?
modified 16-Mar-21 5:21am.
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I'm fine on both desktop and Surface - both running 20H2 (109042.867)
My mouse driver is "Microsoft PS/2 Mouse" to a Logi Trackman Wheel via PS/2 port on desktop, and "Hid compliant mouse" via bluetooth on Surface.
Both working with no oddities at all.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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This maybe not your case but funny: A while back...
* my mouse started acting really weird
* OK, switch, mouse, fine!
* But not : ( switch mouse port, fine!
* But not : (
* After a couple of days...
* I realised that with my lid closed the touchpad was picking up static
* Find setting, fine!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Is it the software or the mouse? Do you have the same problem with a different mouse?
I've seen dying mice that would record phantom clicks.
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I'm pretty sure it is software. I am not aware of anything on the mouse that can change the screen scrolling mode/state
I don't have any other hardware to play with (im stuck in hotel quarantine)
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DaveAuld wrote: I am not aware of anything on the mouse that can change the screen scrolling mode/state
Middle-click does this, so it could be a faulty middle mouse button (the scroll wheel on most mice).
Regards
Nelviticus
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Sander reported mouse issues too, after Windows 10 update.
The Lounge[^]
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Yeah, but not that bad!
I thought disabling "Enhance pointer precision" fixed it, but I see it's on now and I don't have any problems anymore...
Maybe a restart fixed it?
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I'm running triple mouse action BECAUSE I CAN!
Sometimes I accidentally lie something on the trackball's buttons and then odd stuff happens, but generally they behave.
veni bibi saltavi
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Happened to me on the laptop when the touchpad was still on although I thought it was turned off, so I would occasionaly touch it with the keyboard hand while moving the mouse with the mouse hand, causing bizarre interactions.
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I farking hate  those damned things. I've disabled them in the BIOS on my last two laptops. It's PITA to get selection right, drag/drop is just as bad, and scrolling requires dislocating your middle finger.
It is my eternal shame that when they first came out in the 90's I thought they were pretty cool.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Depends on your mouse, but sometimes the mouse wheel (for scrolling) is also a button, and if you press down (click) the wheel, it will be in scrolling mode so your mouse scrolls with movement.
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I'd tell you but my laptop has failed for the last 3 months to do a windows update.
Like an idiot I will, however, retry every two weeks.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Coonamble has had all this rain, and there is a terrible mouse plague. Dead and dying mouses everywhere, some with blue teeth.
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Check your middle button functionality.
This is exactly what mine does. If I press the middle button (which is easy to do if I'm scrolling too vigorously), it changes behaviour into some kind of scroll mode. The icon changes to a cross with arrows on each end, and moving the mouse causes the page to scroll, rather than move the pointer.
HTH
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I had a similar issue some years ago too. Every time I opened a combobox list it scrolled down to the last item. It took me some hours of investigation until I realized that I had a powered-on cordless mouse in my backbag 
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Just updated windows 10 yesterday and the mouse acted like someone else was using it. I unplugged the RJ45 and still had the problem. Looking deeper, the CPU was maxed out at 100% so not much processing power going to the mouse. After waiting a while, it calmed down and started working ok but took a long time, an hour or so. I think the new update was still working on things in the background so you could do things in the foreground, didnt work.
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(Tongue firmly in cheek)It is St. Patrick's Fay. Check for leprechauns.(/Tongue firmly in cheek)
It sounds familiar. My mouse is a wired Kensington mouse and I had similar problems a year back. It turned out to be a nearly invisible hair in the optical socket for the mouse. Once removed, everything returned to normal.
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