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GeneralRe: Nevada governor wants to allow tech companies to create local governments Pin
Nelek7-Feb-21 21:09
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markrlondon9-Feb-21 8:25
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I hardly think it's the point. The point is to give unelected people with too much power and money already, even more control over us.

It is precisely the point, as far as I can see and in my experience. One of the key points to remember is that the other point of privatisation is to remove monopoly in favour of market competition. It is critical that it is real time competition (long term state-issued franchises are NOT genuine privatisation). Where there is real time competition, it is simply a matter of providers competing for customers. Do not confuse provision of commercial service with something that should have anything to do with government.

honey the codewitch wrote:
Either you believe your democratic government is best positioned to represent society collectively

That is exactly what I believe. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with privatisation of commercial services. Commercial services are nothing to do with "society collectively". Why should the government own the gas company, or rail company, or bus company? That makes no sense.

honey the codewitch wrote:
Who who at the end of the day do I want handling the police? Who do I want deciding who can be licensed to drive a vehicle, and who can dump what into the water we share or pull what out of the water table we share?

Ah, now you're changing the goalposts somewhat. Who is privatising the police? Note that it is entirely reasonable to outsource certain activities without actually privatising a particular service. Privatising is a different thing to outsourcing. Outsourcing in this context means that the government is still involved and still maintains a monopoly. but simply employs a contractor to do jobs more efficiently than the government is able to. (Yes, I know this can go wrong in practice but in my opinion that's because of continued government involvement, the government's self-claimed monopoly on power, and the lack of a real time competitive marketplace.)

honey the codewitch wrote:
Capitalism is easy because it's what we already do.

Capitalism is not easy. It's hard work. But it does work. Note that it doesn't guarantee anything. That's not its point. It is a system in which you can succeed or fail. And that is its strength and success.

honey the codewitch wrote:
Indeed it was not so much invented as it was articulated based on observing how societies dealt with wealth

Quite so. It is a description of evolution. That is to say, it works better than anything else.

It could be out-evolved one day but I strongly suspect that anything that out-competes it will only be able to do so by being predicated on the sicknesses of loss of opportunity, loss of liberty, and authoritarianism/totalitarianism. I.e. It will be (perhaps is being) out-competed by a kind of new-feudalism (or neo-socialism, as some call it), a new structure that is designed to benefit the few at the cost of the many. Those of us wishing for an end to capitalism may well come to regret their hate of the very thing that gave them liberty, opportunity, and a chance to prosper.

modified 9-Feb-21 14:39pm.

NewsChromium cleans up its act – and daily DNS root server queries drop by 60 billion Pin
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