|
I love the chip. It's solid, regardless of what Adafruit says. The platform is gold. 
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
I don't think I would condemn them that hard. I have never purchased any microcontrollers from them but have bought some devices. Their programming libraries are good for starting out. I am using a couple of temperature modules and a Temp/Humidity/Pressure module for an exercise to use Blazor, running on a Pi, as a dashboard. Started at Adafruit. No worries. Now, the temp module is $4.95 from them and $0.77 from Alibaba (+ $1.75, 30-50 days shipping). I would guess that all of that stuff is sourced from China. I have never tried to get support from Ada, but I guess you could view your experience 2 ways. One way is they were honest with you, and maybe ask for your money back. The IoT world is full of hype, cheating, and lying as well as good stuff. I like the good stuff (always look at the datasheets).
Like they say: Good, Cheap, Fast: pick any 2.
Pi's rock and start at about $8.
The I2C bus was never really intended for the way we use it, FWICS.
Cheers
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
|
|
|
|
|
You're fairer than I would be but I'm done ranting now.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
What I saw I realize was prophesied most of a century ago[^].
| Ravings en masse^ |
|---|
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
modified 8-Nov-20 10:54am.
|
|
|
|
|
this is politically motivated, and trolling, and illustrates the double standard.
|
|
|
|
|
This is merely a parade of joy.
These selections, on the other hand, and political and I warn away those who don't want to enter this soon-to-be-locked down thread.
Also relevant from the very self same movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So[^]
Wizard Of Oz[^]
I guess a good portion of the USA will demand the movie be banned. Especially in rural states. Well - the book burnings have, fortunately, been averted.
And the rest of us ? We can have a good laugh at it and get on with the business of living.
| Ravings en masse^ |
|---|
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
|
|
|
|
|
You are out of line, Balboos. Your post is political and you know it.
If I posted similar posts, Sean would ban me for good. You do it, nothing happens.
Double standard.
|
|
|
|
|
You did not see, in person, the joy in the streets I witnessed.
Apparently, nationwide.
It's an event - an experience - that cannot be; should not be - forgotten.
What is telling, however, is you're making yourself some sort of victim-to-be, some sort of martyr in the making. I will skip enumerating from the pathetic-yet-laughable script, of the same nature, read aloud by what I see as "the other side".
There's a bunch of people, not all of them in Washington, DC, that just plain have to get over themselves. Or, at the least, reminisces about their past posts and realize that "what goes around comes around".
| Ravings en masse^ |
|---|
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
|
|
|
|
|
But, you could always avoid his diatribes
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
|
|
|
|
|
Yeah - I will take your advice on this.
| Ravings en masse^ |
|---|
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
|
|
|
|
|
not my point. my point is that I have already been banned on this site. I have also been told my next infraction is a ban for life.
I am shedding light on the double standard. Certain members get away with EVERYTHING on this site, other, do not.
|
|
|
|
|
Can we not have generalisations, please?
cheers
Chris Maunder
|
|
|
|
|
I've been wrestling with a problem all morning for what I thought would be a simple clock that also fetched weather information and exposed a tiny website on the home network at http://clock.local that will get the time and weather information. Simple, right?
The trouble I've been having is trying to get this thing to do WPS connect in the background. Everything has to be interrupt driven because I have no threads/scheduler and that's fine, but then I basically need a coroutine (like yield in C#) around all of the call backs because i have to ...
and I just figured out the solution.
woo. I'm leaving this here because i love when that happens.
Anyway, I love not having to deal with threads. I love that callbacks are safe to set global variables from.
Everything is so bloody simple. Yay.
But also, everything is so bloody simple. Boo!
Expect more articles. These things should keep me in material for at least the next month.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
|
Tell me when I can buy a microcontroller I can program in C# using Visual Studio. 
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
|
|
|
|
|
One problem with that is garbage collection. By nature garbage collectors tend to want to reserve a lot of memory. It's possible in theory to do .NET on a limited host, but maybe not something so limited as an ESP32. I could be wrong.
C++ isn't so bad, especially when coding these little things. There's no room for templates (what C# calls generics) so the code isn't actually that confusing. Most of it is C ish. There's very few reasons to do pointer ops so you won't typically be using things like * or -> except maybe * occasionally when dealing with strings.
Another option for some of these things is micropython which is python with a stripped down runtime.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
You won't even get to the GC problem until you solve the bloatware problem on both fronts! 
|
|
|
|
|
Yeah, although the CLI itself is pretty compact, so if it shipped with a stripped down CLR i think it would probably be fine but for the GC.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
Quote: There's no room for templates (what C# calls generics) so the code isn't actually that confusing. Most of it is C ish. There's very few reasons to do pointer ops so you won't typically be using things like * or -> except maybe * occasionally when dealing with strings
It is C++: templates can be used and have their usage (possibly you mean STL containers and the like...).
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
|
|
|
|
|
They have their usage but you have to understand you have very little SRAM for program storage - it's precious, and templates tend to bloat code where every literally byte counts. It's why they're barely used by Arduino library writers. This isn't the same as coding for a PC for example.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
Quote: They have their usage but you have to understand you have very little SRAM for program storage
I know that. Still, I don't see why templates bloat code.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
|
|
|
|
|
|
Linkers are pretty smart, nowdays.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
|
|
|
|
|
One would hope, but in an embedded environment I'm more concerned when it doesn't, because it matters more.
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
|
here you are: https://nanoframework.net/
Real programmers use butterflies
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
