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This is so dumb. As long as you get your work done I wouldn't care if you were headbanging to Slayer while taking fat bong rips. If you don't get your work done, well that's what HR is for, and with unemployment skyrocketing it shouldn't be hard to find a replacement.
Article wrote: If daily tasks aren’t completed, workers "will be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including termination."
Exactly, so if this is the case why do you need desktop screenshots, audio/video monitoring, key loggers, etc? None of those measure or benchmark task metrics.
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<blank>'em. ~25 years ago I was working 3'rd shift and went to the back office, for some reason, and discovered a printout. It showed everything that I had been typing the last couple of hours.
So <blank>'em, all it showed was that I was doing my job.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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depends on the work, if it's time sensitive or say 'customer' facing (customer service hours) then perhaps some limited use
but for developer types / project or 'get it done by-' tasks
well it's the same as The Lounge[^]
... stupid bosses that think "work from home" means 9 AM you dutifully sit in front of your machine and stay there (minus allowed breaks) till 5 PM (or whatever the work hours are).
... stupid bosses that insist on daily meetings now even more during work at home to track day by day that you are doing the above.
as a [project based] contractor I can spend 5 days watching shows, and do my 40 hours in a weekend,
in reality often waking about 10-11AM, alternated working, watching TV, housework, shopping... till 3AM (in fact nearly always starting my 'day' with non work to get my eye in and brain fog out)
- sometimes all 7 days of the week or longer 10 days, 20 days, 30 days no breaks
-- but there may also be some days no work at all (in fact some days no computer at all)
adding up the hours of work in "a week" way more than 40 hours, in a month 200 - 400 hours - and delivering on time (usually earlier) where a ETA was provided.
personally I'm more productive 'solving some problems' watching say The Simpsons than starting at a page of code
... looking at code I get stuck 'this is the solution so why doesn't it work? how do I fix THIS?'
... not looking at 'this solution' means my mind can wander OTHER solutions, not trapped by what's in my eyes. (and yes I mean 'wander' not 'wonder').
I've solved many hard problems watching movies riding my bike, taking a crap - more than staring at code. (also why I start my day avoiding work, I organize myself.)
As to "use this machine (or VPN) for your work" [crap installed],
- as much as possible I'll put it aside and use my own
- where I can't I expect the right to de-crap it and add my own stuff on it.
... secrecy, data protection?
- if you don't accept a signed NDA just because I'm at home you think I'll be any less honest sitting in a cubicle in your office?
... when you hire say a builder to add an extension to your house do you supply his tools? do you supply a plumber the piping, grommets and glue to fix your toilet leaking?
-- why should software be any different?
if your boss doesn't trust you, unless you're desperate for work they can get stuffed.
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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lopatir wrote: in reality often waking about 10-11AM, alternated working, watching TV, housework, shopping... till 3AM (in fact nearly always starting my 'day' with non work to get my eye in and brain fog out)
- sometimes all 7 days of the week or longer 10 days, 20 days, 30 days no breaks
-- but there may also be some days no work at all (in fact some days no computer at all)
That's the thing: in this profession, you do your best work when your brain is ready for it, not the clock.
If your manager is happy with poorer-quality work for forty hours, rather than higher-quality work for thirty-five, he should go and manage a pig farm.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Well, I'll just bet that everyone who works at Axos Financial Inc. is extremely loyal to the company, and will pull out all the stops and make huge sacrifices if the company needs it.
It really needs to be put on record that Gregory Garrabrants is an idiot.
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Just plain stupid, and I dare say a company that does that would not be a company I would want to work for?
Although we now working from home because of the virus, even our managers realise productive will be down, as they have deliberately delayed work projects temporarily during this unusual event. Once things get back to a form of normality then it will ramp up again.
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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If I ever get a warning due to what have I been doing or not doing from my employer, they will have to look for another one, because I will activelly start to look for another job.
If they don't trust me, my self management and / or my professionality... how can / why should I I trust them?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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So, what else is new?
The only reason they don't trust their employees is because they can't be trusted themselves.
I have had 2 perfect examples: one CEO spent more time watching porn than running the company.
The other one ran 2 companies and was supposedly most of the time at the "other" company while in reality he spent most of his time on his ( smallish ) yacht or boat.
Once you have reached that sort of level by cheating you obviously don't trust anyone below you.
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Keep distance and stop making jokes about it!
[Edit]
Yes you can make nice home office.
But you assholes trust at the same time that a caregiver is ready for you in an emergency?
Turn on your brain!
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Humor helps us coping.
Are you sure? The Lounge[^]
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Very sure; and Google's "apirl fools" is a marketing-gimmick, not the humor of someone trying to lighten up a bad situation.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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0x01AA wrote: _I am_ personally involved 1:1 in first aid. Can you imagine what I think about your post?
F... would be the nicest one!
Post it publicly if you want to verbally abuse someone, you coward.
And no, you needn't be there.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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if you think the jokes are a bad idea now,
just think what they'll be like after it's all over and in hindsight realise how badly [and many cases wrongly, rediculously, hopelessly] handled and it all was
... not to mention how over dramatized it all was with, lets face it: far too much [for supposedly 'rational' peoples'] panic driven absurdity.
or in less words: the reaction to this virus was (currently is)
- way over done,
- mostly wrong, and
- mass stupidity was allowed [encouraged?] to take hold.
and the consequences, the real consequences and not just empty toilet paper shelves, haven't even begun.
the only thing that is never wrong is humor,
if we can't laugh anymore humanity is forever lost.
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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Take it to the soapbox.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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0x01AA wrote: But you assholes
I was recently banned for calling another member a bad name. I would go easy on the name calling.
Just a thought...
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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The easiest solution:
If you don't like what you read, stop coming for a while to the lounge and read books instead.
EDIT:
Quote: But you XXXX trust at the
You should change that.
Oh... an additional thought.
Maybe the you being a long member here (and indirectly having a high reputation) is having something to do that you are not getting directly nuked for your insults. But not exactly because of your reputation but maybe because we think we know you, we usually see that you are not a bad guy and we "guess" that you are pretty stressed by the situation at the moment...
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 28-Mar-20 6:23am.
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Done. Thanks again.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: But you assholes trust at the same time that a caregiver is ready for you in an emergency?
Yes, it's their job, they chose it, they are paid for it with my taxes. They refuse? They should be fired instantly.
Also, please use the full title: Chief Gunnery A**hole for us NCOs.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: Also, please use the full title: Chief Gunnery A**hole for us NCOs.
So what are you doing in the officers' mess? Chiefs & POs' is aft, under the boiler room.
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den2k88 wrote: Yes, it's their job, they chose it,
They're in a terrible spot, but it all reminds me of the early stages of Afghanistan/Iraq.
I was living in West Virginia at the time - and it was very common for both parents to be in the army reserves. They'd go for their training, but they would also go for that check they kept whilst in the reserves. Traditionally, easy money.
Then they started being mobilized - and started whining - especially when "Mom" and "Dad" were both called up. Well - there is one question I have to ask - why did you both join if you both weren't expecting to be treated like, well, members of the army reserve and possibly be mobilized? Was the easy money check all you were interested in or was it serving the country?
I won't for them and give an answer - but it does point out that when you take a job you should consider what happens if things go to the extreme scenarios. Don't join the army if you don't want to go to war; don't go into the medical field if you don't want to be around sick people. Yes - both of these can find themselves in a bad state if their luck doesn't hold out.
Finally - I'm not saying these people aren't working their asses off - and they are at a risk I would not take - but remember: this is what they signed up for . . . unless they were only in it for the money, and in that case, my sympathy wares thing.
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I go the cemetery for a walk or run.
Everyone stays at least 6 feet away! 
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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