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I used to love them as my goto. Now, since they've added the marketplace aspect to their website, they have become less reliable.
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Exactly how is that ridiculous? To me, ridiculous would be if we had one or two choices of each and they cost a ton of money.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rick York wrote: Exactly how is that ridiculous?
Who needs that many motherboard types ? What a waste of resources, plus these things are already built and packaged, not done on demand, and they will never sell them all.
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They sell enough to make it worth their while. All of those motherboard companies have been around for quite some time.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rage wrote: Who needs that many motherboard types ?
I think I know the solution to that problem: Don't buy them all! Limit yourself to a small selection. You could even go down to a single one!
That is my solution when I am given a selection of 120 different breakfast cereals in the supermarket. Or the bewildering selection of car models, in all sorts of colors, engine sizes and what have you. Or, if I buy myself a pocket radio, the huge number of different models on the market. I buy a single model. Then I don't have to worry about all the others.
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One of things that works for me in terms of looking is to start with a budget and then with googly help break it down to what i want to spend on what. From there you can narrow with google like - "gigabyte motherboard $180" - and then go to overclock.net i think it is? google "overclock forums" and search for info on that board. It's an overclock site but really good for generally scoping out a board/cpu/ram combo before you buy.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Meh.
Imagine a site that let you build "a car". Not just a particular make or model, and the current year model only, but everything, which is what this site seems to let you do. I suspect an unfiltered list would be just as ridiculous.
That's how most sites with any sort of catalog are designed; in that sense, I don't think this one is particularly bad. The filters on the left side should trim the list down to a more manageable size.
OTOH, it is bad in that the filters all seem to result in a generic ASP.NET error. What a bunch of geniuses.
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... and even then, it's hard to find a sensible mainboard. Some "you gotta turn off Windows fast boot" dubious boot optimization, lights, metal coolers on the southbridge, tons of additional chips for this and that functionality (because the dozen or so USB ports supplied by the CPU aren't enough) and whatnot. When looking for a SIMPLE mainboard, I feel like I should quit and be happy with my Switch.
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Well, the problem may be not so difficult to address... my advice is to start from the CPU and this alone will cut your options by 50%... then think at the features you really need, like wi-fi, USB 3.1, one or two nmve slots, USB-C, RGB lights, and so on... you will quickly reduce your choice to a small bunch of motherboards...
If you are upgrading a gaming PC you should already have something in mind...
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good idea, this list may help also.
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Try pcpartpicker. Start with the CPU. They can limit your choices to compatible components to go with it. Once you get your list of gotta-haves, like x4 M.2, number of slots, back panel connectors, mobo size, etc., the choices really narrow down. Their list of filters is pretty good.
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done that and cross-referenced with what was available on newegg.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I use Microcenter sometimes. Their selection can be thin but they can have some good deals on some parts. If there’s a store in town, that’s a bonus. For that matter, you can get a lot of stuff at BestBuy. I’ve never had a problem with anything I’ve gotten at either place. My experience with NewEgg is spotty.
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Agree, came here to say this. This site is a great resource.
Also when ordering consider Microcenter. My last build I found their in-store prices were competitive with mail order, with the advantage of being able to return the same day if anything didn't work. If you don't have one near you, they also do mail order.
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If you combine cats with avocados, would that be guacmewle?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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or big stoned felines?
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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Nope, you get an angry cat and scratched forearms.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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These days, if you combine a cat with an Australian dingo, do you get a cat on a hot tin woof?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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No they would be avacatos - you have to skin them, pit them, then squish them up and add a few things to make guacamewle.
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
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So her computer started having all kinds of issues, including BIOS misbehaving. The computer was getting quite old and I did not fancy regular maintenance work to keep it going. Her birthday is early in the new year and so I bought her a new Dell as combined Christmas and birthday gift.
I paid a little extra to get her a machine with a NVMe M.2 SSD.
One of the first items I checked was the speed of the M.2 SSD. I was very disappointed. Dell had supplied the machine with a SSD that ran barely faster than clunky old SATA SSDs. In fact the sequential read speed was slightly slower than her old SATA SSD.
I ordered a new Samsung 970 Pro M.2 SSD and used it to replace the item supplied by Dell. What a difference! Sequential read speed was about 5 times that of traditional Samsung SATA SSDs. Random read speeds were also much faster, but not quite 5 times. Now I sit with a M.2 SSD that Dell supplied, that is of no further use to me! I am a little disappointed in Dell.
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No second slot, tucked away underneath, somewhere?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You can get an adapter that takes an M.2 SSD and plugs into the X4 connector of the PCIe bus. But that is already occupied by another Samsung M.2 that is her data drive. So no, I have no use for the unit supplied by Dell.
Yes: She has a very, very fast machine now.
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[Clark Kent]
This is a job...
[/Clark Kent]
[Superman]
... For EBAY!
[Superman]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Right! When you're right you're right! And you are right. 
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I don't buy off-the-shelf PCs. I always build them with myself with parts I select.
My kid and I just built him a (gaming) PC, he selected the video card first and then we selected everything else to go around it.
Previously, he had an off-the-shelf PC (against my recommendation of course) which didn't suit his a needs, but his mother buys him whatever he asks for. The only parts re-used from that are the CPU and an HDD. The old M.2 SSD was replaced with a WD Black one twice the capacity.
Now he's watching CES footage and drooling over the upcoming graphics cards. 
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