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Washers you wouldn't have needed had you not bought the printer? So what's the _real_ cost of the washers?
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Kind of like my sons justification for bow hunting.
$1600 for bow
$60 for 6 arrows with razor heads
$150 Deer Stand
$1200/yr hunt club membership
$6000 camper to keep in the woods. He bought a (very expensive) Chevy truck with intent to haul 5th wheel camper and they told him if he put 5th wheel in back of truck it would void warranty. WTF?
$?? Gas food, time off work, etc.
So how'd you do while out 5 days?
Saw 2 small bucks, to small to harvest.
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I've been made to understand that those who go hunting only do it for the beer.
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I'm starting to suspect that as well.
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Sounds familiar. Last year I got drawn for an elk tag. Since it was my first time hunting, I had no gear, and had to go shopping. I got cold weather clothing and accessories ($1000), tuned up my Browning BAR (muzzle break @ $80, scope calibrated for .30-06 @ $400). I can't carry 800 lbs of meat out of the mountains, so I needed a trailer ($800) to haul my Yamaha Kodiak (with winch, just in case). I rented a cheap motel for the week - the heater didn't work right, and the carpet was soaking wet from condensation on the interior walls - for about $400. I was up before dawn, walking in the woods at 15 - 20F, squatting for hours near known watering holes, for a solid week. Several trophy-grade white tail deer walked up to me in perfect safety - they knew it was bow season for deer, and I was carrying a rifle. I never saw a single elk. 
It would be more economical for me to give up on elk, and just order 800 lbs of lobster shipped from Maine. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Sounds about right.
Roger Wright wrote: It would be more economical for me to give up on elk, and just order 800 lbs of lobster shipped from Maine.
Plus the lobster would be a hell of a lot tastier! 
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
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Mike Hankey wrote: the lobster would be a hell of a lot tastier!
That's a big Maybe... You've never tasted my hunting partner, Denise's elk chili. Lobster never tasted so good...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Pretty minimal: the machine was a "given"; my Christmas Present from Herself (I just kinda opened it early under orders)
I still have the project I wanted it for (and a couple of others that are creeping out of the woodwork now I can see what it does) but that'll wait for after the "official" present day.
With that discounted, the washers work out about ariount 2.4 pence per gram, and the five I have left don't even weigh enough to register on my kitchen 1g scales. (I don't buy / sell narcotics, so I don;t need more accurate scales than that)
The cheapest that a quick look on Fleabay gives me is around £1.70 for 10, or 2.99 for 100 - and I'd have them Tuesday or Wednesday.
To go and buy them? £0.99 for five, and a 30 mile round trip meaning 1/2 gallon of diesel and an hour of my life.
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Please take into account the countless hours and the x kg of filament for the tests before. I think you can buy an endless amount of M4 washers for this  
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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What material are those printers using then?
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TPU Flexible when printed.
PLA Rigid when printed
ABS Rigid when printed
HIPS Dissolvable, used for melted supports (but I have no idea how)
WOOD Not actually wood, it contains wood and looks like the real thing when printed.
Basically PLA with wood dust.
I'm using PLA at the moment - it comes with 1KG of it as standard - but the main project will be ABS for it's higher glass temperature.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I have to write a letter.
I practiced that in school, but I've never actually had to send one in real life.
As some might've guessed, I have some trouble with the government and apparently they don't have email or any other form of digital contact 
Perhaps they just try to make it as difficult as possible to file a complaint?
Lots of stress for me though.
First, there's the writing, which I'd have to do in an email anyway (probably just slightly less formal).
Then there's the printing.
I have to provide some "evidence" so it's more printing and some copying (instead of just scanning).
Luckily, I just bought ink and paper for my printer/scanner because I needed to print some piano sheet music.
Then I actually have to leave the house and go to the post office which is open on Saturday morning (today it closed before I was even out of bed) or in the afternoon on weekdays.
Buy a stamp and envelope, write some address on it and then wait.
Probably until I get a piece of paper back telling me they've received my complaint and are processing it.
Then wait some more until I get another piece of paper telling me my complaint was justified or not.
If I want history I'll go to a museum 
They worry about the elderly not being able to fill out online forms, but what about the younger generation who don't know how to write a letter?
On a more serious note, I'm only 31 and I've never sent a letter before (I wonder if they still practice writing them in school?).
I have some younger cousins who have never seen a floppy before.
Technology sure has come far, fast!
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History can have it's charms, today I visited the historic city of Hattem where a chocolate festival took place, jummy
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Make sure you send it registered mail
they're notorious for loosing mail (sending it to the wrong person/dept) but will never admit, rather they claim it hasn't been received ... with the suggestion you didn't send it [yet] or "what address did you send it to?" (implying you're an idiot) ...
for the extra few $ it's worth it, and reg mail tracking is on-line.
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You've never sent a letter before??? (Even our Prime Minister has sent a 3 letters...)
How did you thank your Grandparents for Christmas presents?
How did you write to distant relatives about someone's death? (With a black-bordered envelope so they know to sit down before reading it)
How did you send romantic letters to your prospective partner? (Ideally with a pressed flower, or at least some little token for them to keep close to their heart)
Seriously, there are times when a letter is more appropriate than email / text etc.
I'm helping sort out my late mother-in-law's home, and we've come across hundreds of old letters, that fill in a lot of gaps about family history, hidden secrets, life in years gone by, some of it going back a century. No phone SIM is going to keep all that stuff, the "cloud" will run out of backup space some time, your CDs / DVDs will no longer be accessible - paper (so long as kept dry!) will stay around...
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DerekT-P wrote: How did you thank your Grandparents for Christmas presents?
In person.
DerekT-P wrote: How did you write to distant relatives about someone's death? (With a black-bordered envelope so they know to sit down before reading it)
I never had to.
You do that for like a couple of people in your entire life...
DerekT-P wrote: How did you send romantic letters to your prospective partner? (Ideally with a pressed flower, or at least some little token for them to keep close to their heart)
I bought them gifts or sent them texts and emails.
DerekT-P wrote: Seriously, there are times when a letter is more appropriate than email / text etc.
When you dislike someone and want to send them paper waste
Seriously, why the hell would I ever send anyone a letter? 
Email, text and phone do perfectly fine.
Emails don't take up any physical space and they have this awesome search functionality.
I don't even like receiving letters.
They're mostly taxes or fines or some other stupid thing my government wants.
Or lottery spam.
The time of Christmas cards is soon upon us (for some reason I got four cards more than usual last year, which brings the total to five)
I read two magazines that I enjoy receiving.
Which reminds me, some green energy foundation I support keeps sending me letters (that go straight to the recycling bin).
I have to call them to tell them to stop and send it by email already.
So much paper wasted for a green initiative 
Death to letters! 
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I completely understand your plight, though I received a full education in the dark arts, being an old fart. I was giggling today with some other old farts about the kids growing up now. Here in the US, many schools have ceased teaching cursive writing. At the same time, I've noticed that the Captcha garbage many sites employ now spell out the clues in cursive letters, asking the user to type in the correct characters. The poor little ones won't have any idea what to type. I may not be able, in my old age, to play with the games they play, but they'll still need me to get them into online ordering systems!
Will Rogers never met me.
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No cursive!? 
Well, to be honest, the last time I needed cursive... 
I had a computer at a very early age (when I was 7 years old, 7 years old was early) and I never really did write a lot.
A University professor once noted "your cursive writing is at the level of a 3rd grader, but that also makes it very readable."
And that's really only where I used it, in school.
At least I don't need you for my online shopping needs (I'd need an extra order of eye bleach  )
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'd need an extra order of eye bleach
I'm old, but not that ugly!
Cursive writing isn't all that useful, actually. In the Peoples' Republic of California, when I was a kid, we were taught block printing until the 3rd grade, then we had to master cursive. When I was in 2nd grade, my school didn't have enough students for a 2nd grade class, so they stuck me in a 2nd/3rd mixed class, where the teacher made us all learn cursive. Half way through the year, they found more 2nd grade kids, and split the class. Our new teacher punished me for writing cursive, and forced me to go back to block printing. I haven't been able to write in cursive style with much skill ever since. Frankly, I don't miss it a bit...
Will Rogers never met me.
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nine out of ten times cursive is unreadable.
I heard it's a prerequisite for med school though
It just writes so much faster than block.
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Attach a false correction (5)
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Attach
a A
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yep 
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This is not what I expected.
Getting old ain't for sissies!
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Indeed. Hope all is well?
/ravi
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